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@kellyjay said

I don’t have a problem with capital punishment, if it is a just recompense.

"Vengeance is mine, and recompense,.." Deuteronomy 32:35

Giving the green light to capital punishments obliterates all of your Christian morality and makes your views on abortion a nonsense.

@kellyjay said
Do you open wombs for someone to conceive? Do you shut them so some don’t? You simply are justifying the deaths of our unborn as if you are divinity, you are not, you don’t even own you body, God also gave that to you. Look what you are supporting that people do with theirs!

Hosea 9:10-16 said God (your God) would punish the Israelites by destroying their unborn children, who will die at birth, or perish in the womb. - "Give them wombs that miscarry."

Yes, yes, God can do anything He likes because He is God, and we are all going to die at some point so what does it matter if God kills us in the womb?

@ghost-of-a-duke said
Page 6. The same page she made her position blatantly obvious. (And yet 5 posts on there you are again, asking the same inane question).

Nonsense

@ghost-of-a-duke said
Innocent people of course have faced capital punishment.

Absolutely, so just to be clear, I'm not in favour of capital punishment. I was sort of theorizing, which is about all one can do in the end when faced with this dilemma, in which there are no 'moral absolutes', which is why it remains such a contentious issue. Nobody I'm sure is 'in favour' of consciously aborting embryos, which I daresay is a traumatic experience for the woman concerned, and one can only really form ones' own opinions, mine being that a woman must have control of her own body, and of her own future, albeit that this isn't morally absolute either. At least I don't have to worry about any god, since I don't believe there is one.

@suzianne said
Never mind that the vast majority of abortions are performed before the fetus has any of those things.

When do you believe life begins? As a Christian, do you believe it begins at conception?

@suzianne said
Would you like your binky back?

As predicted, you appear incapable of discussing this in good faith.

@suzianne said
But you do this same thing all the time, at least to me.

This is false.

@suzianne said
Isn't that called hypocrisy?

There is no hypocrisy, dodging or resort to ad hominems from me here.

Earlier this year you cited the anti-abortion stance of millions and millions of conservative Christians in your country as an example of how they allegedly cannot possibly be followers of Christ. This raises an interesting question:

Can opposition to abortion credibly be characterized as unchristian on account of it supposedly being misogynistic?

@suzianne said
"simply"

You’re inability to discuss anything in good faith is apparent; all we get from you is scorn.

@suzianne said
How fast did you type this?

Now what are you on about?

@ghost-of-a-duke said
"Vengeance is mine, and recompense,.." Deuteronomy 32:35

Giving the green light to capital punishments obliterates all of your Christian morality and makes your views on abortion a nonsense.

Yes vengeance belongs to the Lord, a just recompense is not vengeance.

@ghost-of-a-duke said
Hosea 9:10-16 said God (your God) would punish the Israelites by destroying their unborn children, who will die at birth, or perish in the womb. - "Give them wombs that miscarry."

Yes, yes, God can do anything He likes because He is God, and we are all going to die at some point so what does it matter if God kills us in the womb?

You have a point?

@ghost-of-a-duke said
"Vengeance is mine, and recompense,.." Deuteronomy 32:35

Giving the green light to capital punishments obliterates all of your Christian morality and makes your views on abortion a nonsense.

You in the habit of quoting only part of a text to prove a point?

@divegeester said
You’re inability to discuss anything in good faith is apparent; all we get from you is scorn.

“In the end time there will be scoffers walking according to their own ungodly desires.” Jude 1:18

@indonesia-phil said
Absolutely, so just to be clear, I'm not in favour of capital punishment. I was sort of theorizing, which is about all one can do in the end when faced with this dilemma, in which there are no 'moral absolutes', which is why it remains such a contentious issue. Nobody I'm sure is 'in favour' of consciously aborting embryos, which I daresay is a traumatic experience for ...[text shortened]... y absolute either. At least I don't have to worry about any god, since I don't believe there is one.

Without God what exactly do you look for when it comes to moral absolutes, consensus?