Originally posted by AgergThe book of Romans. Its a good introduction to how Christ gave his life so that we can have life. If not then take the advice I gave to PK. Life your life as you see fit and let Christians do the same.
I have no problem with Bible-God being a dick so long as we agree that such is it's nature without abusing language. By any reasonable definition of the word, "loving" is not an attribute that is consistent with your notion of "God".
Indeed what precisely is meant by Bible-God is loving??? 😕
Originally posted by Conrau KWhat is Whodey aiming at? Well it's kinda like drug abusers. I suppose you could provide them with clean needles and all to let them carry on as they like. No doubt, it would "save" some lives, but in the end, there is no changing the fact that it's simply a screwed up lifestyle that is inherently unhealthy.
First, I strongly doubt that statistic. Second, exactly what are you aiming at?
So what is more loving? Is it more loving to provide a drug abuser a kindler gentler environment to carry on or is it more loving go through the horrendous ordeal of going cold turkey?
Originally posted by Rajk999Well en-masse, Christians don't just live out their lives in peace. Indeed they go round petitioning for large groups of people to be silenced, marginalised, incarcerated, or murdered because these people do things an invisible friend in the sky is purported to dislike.
The book of Romans. Its a good introduction to how Christ gave his life so that we can have life. If not then take the advice I gave to PK. Life your life as you see fit and let Christians do the same.
Moreover, this is a (Spirituality) debating forum; and as much as you'd love it to be a Christian worship forum and/or insulting no-Christians forum it is no such thing yet. As such if I have a point to make about the Bible-God invention or any other god humans have dreamt up I'll make it in spite of your or anyone else's request for me to zip it.
Originally posted by whodeyOr maybe you give them clean needles while they wait to get onto a treatment program. You see the thing is whodey, detoxing is the easy part, it's the psychological part of addiction that is the tougher part to conquer. That is a life long battle.
What is Whodey aiming at? Well it's kinda like drug abusers. I suppose you could provide them with clean needles and all to let them carry on as they like. No doubt, it would "save" some lives, but in the end, there is no changing the fact that it's simply a screwed up lifestyle that is inherently unhealthy.
So what is more loving? Is it more loving to ...[text shortened]... ment to carry on or is it more loving go through the horrendous ordeal of going cold turkey?
Originally posted by AgergWell unzip all you like, but look through this thread and tell me who are ones guilty of the most 'hate' ... is it the gay-supporters or the Bible-supporters ?
Well en-masse, Christians don't just live out their lives in peace. Indeed they go round petitioning for large groups of people to be silenced, marginalised, incarcerated, or murdered because these people do things an invisible friend in the sky is purported to dislike.
Moreover, this is a (Spirituality) debating forum; and as much as you'd love it to be a Ch ...[text shortened]... mans have dreamt up I'll make it in spite of your or anyone else's request for me to zip it.
In a debate we present our arguments and thats that. Why do so many gay-supporters need to have Christians on their side otherwise they get abusive?
Originally posted by Proper KnobIt's all about deliverance from things we feel compelled to do that are "bad" for us and the rest of society. It's why Christ came.
Or maybe you give them clean needles while they wait to get onto a treatment program. You see the thing is whodey, detoxing is the easy part, it's the psychological part of addiction that is the tougher part to conquer. That is a life long battle.
Originally posted by Rajk999clearly
I like your style. You want to sin be a man and stand up an sin like there is no tomorrow.
I dislike those sissy-boys who want to have gay sex and dont have the balls [literally and figuratively] to stand up and go do it. They need everybodys permission and want the world to say its ok.
Clearly that is what this thread is all about.
Originally posted by whodeyare you freaking telling us that gays, (the responsible ones, not the doing anything with an anus kind) are leading an unhealthy lifestyle? as unhealthy as the drug abusers you compare them to?
What is Whodey aiming at? Well it's kinda like drug abusers. I suppose you could provide them with clean needles and all to let them carry on as they like. No doubt, it would "save" some lives, but in the end, there is no changing the fact that it's simply a screwed up lifestyle that is inherently unhealthy.
So what is more loving? Is it more loving to ...[text shortened]... ment to carry on or is it more loving go through the horrendous ordeal of going cold turkey?
Originally posted by Proper Knobdon't encourage him on this path, he will think you are saying homosexuality is a curable disease
Or maybe you give them clean needles while they wait to get onto a treatment program. You see the thing is whodey, detoxing is the easy part, it's the psychological part of addiction that is the tougher part to conquer. That is a life long battle.
Originally posted by ZahlanziHow I feel about something is meaningless. Either a particular lifestyle is healthy or it is not healthy. The stats tell the tale.
are you freaking telling us that gays, (the responsible ones, not the doing anything with an anus kind) are leading an unhealthy lifestyle? as unhealthy as the drug abusers you compare them to?
Originally posted by whodeya farmer's life in the middle ages was quite unhealthy. the stats tell the tale. but we figured out one should bathe and clean around the house. now one can be a farmer and live a healthy life.
How I feel about something is meaningless. Either a particular lifestyle is healthy or it is not healthy. The stats tell the tale.
your little post screams of stupidity. it is not the gay lifestyle that's unhealthy, it's the "boink anything that walks without using protection" lifestyle that's unhealthy. which straight people can engage in too if they're stupid.
Originally posted by Zahlanzino, it has been pointed out using physiological fact that anal penetration is unhealthy.
a farmer's life in the middle ages was quite unhealthy. the stats tell the tale. but we figured out one should bathe and clean around the house. now one can be a farmer and live a healthy life.
your little post screams of stupidity. it is not the gay lifestyle that's unhealthy, it's the "boink anything that walks without using protection" lifestyle that's unhealthy. which straight people can engage in too if they're stupid.
You cannot dispute this, its incontrovertible, the anus is not 'designed', for
penetration. Will you admit publicly that this is the case or if you will not then what
evidence do you have to the contrary, simply stating that you dont think its unhealthy
is not evidence in itself, nor is citing medical advancements.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieSitting down all day is unhealthy, but that's beside the point.
no, it has been pointed out using physiological fact that anal penetration is unhealthy.
You cannot dispute this, its incontrovertible, the anus is not 'designed', for
penetration. Will you admit publicly that this is the case or if you will not then what
evidence do you have to the contrary, simply stating that you dont think its unhealthy
is not evidence in itself, nor is citing medical advancements.
Is it your interpretation that God only condemns the practice of anal sex as a sin or is it homosexuality in general. Raj states he thinks that only the 'act' is a sin. What's the JW view?
Originally posted by AgergIs it really loving for a father to let his child run wild and do anything he
I have no problem with Bible-God being a dick so long as we agree that such is it's nature without abusing language. By any reasonable definition of the word, "loving" is not an attribute that is consistent with your notion of "God".
Indeed what precisely is meant by Bible-God is loving??? 😕
wants to do? I am glad I did not have that kind of father. I was punished
for my bad behavior and learned responsiblity for my actions from it. You
on the other hand may be too stupid to learn any responsiblity or teach
anyone else any responsibility for there actions. A reprobate mind at best.
Originally posted by RJHindsIs it really loving for a father to let his child run wild and do anything he
Is it really loving for a father to let his child run wild and do anything he
wants to do? I am glad I did not have that kind of father. I was punished
for my bad behavior and learned responsiblity for my actions from it. You
on the other hand may be too stupid to learn any responsiblity or teach
anyone else any responsibility for there actions. A reprobate mind at best.
wants to do?
Your analogy falls flat on its arse because you wouldn't kill him if he didn't do as you said would you?!