The Garden of Eden

Originally posted by FMF
What is Tacitus' account based on? When did he live? Was he a witness to the events portrayed in the Bible?

He lived in the first/second century I believe, what forms the basis for his statement i cannot say, but you have a non Biblical historical secular source corroborating the actions of Pilate, if you think he made it up then please provide your evidence, I have provided mine.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
He lived in the first/second century I believe, what forms the basis for his statement i cannot say, but you have a non Biblical historical secular source corroborating the actions of Pilate, if you think he made it up then please provide your evidence, I have provided mine.

Where is the corroboration of the Biblical account of what Pontious Piltae said and did to Jesus as it is portrayed in the Bible?

Originally posted by FMF
Where is the corroboration of the Biblical account of what Pontious Piltae said and did to Jesus as it is portrayed in the Bible?

I have just provided a source which corroborates what Pilate did to Jesus, are you disputing its veracity? On what basis are you disputing its veracity? If you are not disputing it then clearly its a non Biblical secular source which corroborates what Pilate did to Jesus.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
Have i stated your opinion is meaningless? yeah i think i have. Why you think it has meaning i cannot say.

Your view as stated a few pages ago was: "This perspective [six day literalism ~ 144 hours] is anti Biblical, anti science and cannot be substantiated in any rational way. What is more it detracts sincere seekers of truth from the Biblical message."

My view, as stated a page or two before yours is that insisting that allegories in scripture are "literally true" serves to obscure or misinterpret the role that God did play in creation and how it was actually brought about.

My view elicited your view. And these two views are essentially the same, are they not? I don't see how your view is not also "meaningless" if you declare mine to be "meaningless". Is not you saying that my view is "meaningless" simply you uttering a "self-certified opinion", as you often put it?

Originally posted by FMF
Your view as stated a few pages ago was: "This perspective [six day literalism ~ 144 hours] is anti Biblical, anti science and cannot be substantiated in any rational way. What is more it detracts sincere seekers of truth from the Biblical message."

My view, as stated a page or two before yours is that insisting that allegories in scripture are "literally tru ...[text shortened]... at my view is "meaningless" simply you uttering a "self-certified opinion", as you often put it?

sorry one subject at a time.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
I have just provided a source which corroborates what Pilate did to Jesus.

I have never questioned the claim that Jesus was crucified. Where is the corroboration of what is claimed to have happened when they met?

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
sorry one subject at a time.

You made the accusation that my view is "meaningless" on the previous page. I am addressing your post.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
I have just provided a source which corroborates what Pilate did to Jesus, are you disputing its veracity? On what basis are you disputing its veracity? If you are not disputing it then clearly its a non Biblical secular source which corroborates what Pilate did to Jesus.

The meeting between Pilate and Jesus is a fictionalized account, right. We agree on that at least. You have no corroboration for what the Bible claims happened when they met.

Originally posted by FMF
I have never questioned the claim that Jesus was crucified. Where is the corroboration of what is claimed to have happened when they met?

So before we proceed, we now have two non Biblical secular sources both of which corroborate with accuracy the Biblical text, firstly that the Bible accurately portrays Pilate, his area of dominion, his governorship etc etc and secondly that it accurately portrays the actions of Pilate, in that when he was procurator of Judea he put Christ to death and so far you have provided not a single piece of corroborating evidence which dispute these? Is that the case?

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
I do not agree or disagree, i have said nothing about it and will not be proffering any opinion beyond what is discernible from scripture...

But Galveston HAS proffered an opinion which is beyond what is written in scripture and yet you are not lambasting him.

I have pointed out using scripture as evidence, that the tree of life is symbolic and yet you are lambasting me.

You are an odd character.

Originally posted by FMF
The meeting between Pilate and Jesus is a fictionalized account, right. We agree on that at least. You have no corroboration for what the Bible claims happened when they met.

What evidence do you have that its a fictionalized account, you have as far as I can discern provided none.

Originally posted by divegeester
But Galveston HAS proffered an opinion which is beyond what is written in scripture and yet you are not lambasting him.

I have pointed out using scripture as evidence, that the tree of life is symbolic and yet you are lambasting me.

You are an odd character.

Sorry if I was too strong with you sometimes one needs to aim above the target in order to hit it.😵

Originally posted by robbie carrobie

So before we proceed, we now have two non Biblical secular sources both of which corroborate with accuracy the Biblical text, firstly that the Bible accurately portrays Pilate, his area of dominion, his governorship etc etc and secondly that it accurately portrays the actions of Pilate, in that when he was procurator of Judea he put Christ to death and so far you have provided not a single piece of corroborating evidence which dispute these? Is that the case?

You are trying to deflect. I have not questioned the existence of Pilate or his job description.

'Therefore Pilate said to Him, "So You are a king?" Jesus answered, "You say correctly that I am a king. For this I have been born, and for this I have come into the world, to testify to the truth. Everyone who is of the truth hears My voice." Pilate said to Him, "What is truth?" And when he had said this, he went out again to the Jews and said to them, "I find no guilt in Him. "But you have a custom that I release someone for you at the Passover; do you wish then that I release for you the King of the Jews?"' [John 18:38]

Do you have anything that corroborates this account?

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
Sorry if I was too strong with you sometimes one needs to aim above the target in order to hit it.😵

You are not being funny, you are just getting in the way of this debate about the tree of life. Perhaps this stupid charade that you are putting up is your way of defending Galveston from his earlier claims that the tree of life is now dead, destroyed by the flood.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
What evidence do you have that its a fictionalized account, you have as far as I can discern provided none.

The burden of proof is yours unless you simply want us to accept what you describe as your "self-certified opinion".