The Garden of Eden

Originally posted by divegeester
Perhaps this stupid charade that you are putting up is your way of defending Galveston from his earlier claims that the tree of life is now dead, destroyed by the flood.

It's now well and truly buried several pages back.

Originally posted by FMF
The burden of proof is yours unless you simply want us to accept what you describe as your "self-certified opinion".

No the burden of proof lies with everyone that makes a truth claim, your claim is that the accounts concerning Pilate as portrayed in scripture are fictional, well, where is your evidenced for the claim that you have made?

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
No the burden of proof lies with everyone that makes a truth claim...

Are you not making a "truth claim" about the Biblical account?

Originally posted by divegeester
You are not being funny, you are just getting in the way of this debate about the tree of life. Perhaps this stupid charade that you are putting up is your way of defending Galveston from his earlier claims that the tree of life is now dead, destroyed by the flood.

I have said nothing about the tree of life, this is the third time I have told you and still you are unable to grasp its import.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
I have said nothing about the tree of life, this is the third time I have told you and still you are unable to grasp its import.

galveston75 claims "the tree of life is dead". Does the Bible claim "the tree of life is dead"?

Originally posted by FMF
Are you not making a "truth claim" about the Biblical account?

I have provided two sources for my claims, one archaeological and one historical. You have provided nothing. So you can either provide evidence for your claim the the Bibles details concerning Pilates treatment of Christ are fictional or we can retract the statement as nothing more than a piece of meaningless rhetoric. If you refuse to provide evidence for the truth claim that you made we can safely assume that you have none.

Do you often make truth claims without a shred of corroborating evidence?

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
I have provided two sources for my claims, one archaeological and one historical. You have provided nothing. So you can either provide evidence for your claim the the Bibles details concerning Pilates treatment of Christ are fictional or we can retract the statement as nothing more than a piece of meaningless rhetoric. If you refuse to provide evi ...[text shortened]... at you have none.

Do you often make truth claims without a shred of corroborating evidence?

Are you not making a "truth claim" about the Biblical account of the conversation between Pilate and Jesus? I thought you believed the account to be true. Is that not the case?

Originally posted by FMF
galveston75 claims "the tree of life is dead". Does the Bible claim "the tree of life is dead"?

why don't you research it if you are interested in what the Bible has to say concerning the tree of life? are you too intellectually lazy to do so?

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
I have provided two sources for my claims, one archaeological and one historical.

You have done no such thing for the Biblical account of the conversation between Pilate and Jesus.

Originally posted by FMF
Are you not making a "truth claim" about the Biblical account of the conversation between Pilate and Jesus? I thought you believed the account to be true. Is that not the case?

I have provided evidence for my claims, where is your evidence, here is your claim again,

The meeting between Pilate and Jesus is a fictionalized account

this is your claim, where is your evidence for the truth claim that you made?

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
why don't you research it if you are interested in what the Bible has to say concerning the tree of life? are you too intellectually lazy to do so?

I think the "tree of life" as portrayed in the Bible is allegorical. galveston75 claims "the tree of life is dead". Do you think galveston75 is right or wrong.

Originally posted by FMF
You have done no such thing for the Biblical account of the conversation between Pilate and Jesus.

I have said nothing concerning the conversation that existed between Pilate and Jesus, on the other hand you have inadvertently blurted out that its fictional, so where is the evidence for the claim that you have made?

Originally posted by FMF
I think the "tree of life" as portrayed in the Bible is allegorical. galveston75 claims "the tree of life is dead". Do you think galveston75 is right or wrong.

I have nothing to say on whether Galveston is right or wrong, i am not discussing the tree of life or Galveston at this point in time, what I am interested in is why you make truth claims that you cannot substantiate? truth claim like,

The meeting between Pilate and Jesus is a fictionalized account - FMF

Do you often make truth claims that you cannot substantiate?

FMF: The meeting between Pilate and Jesus is a fictionalized account

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
this is your claim, where is your evidence for the truth claim that you made?

I asked you if we agreed to that but you skipped it. If it was written long after the event by someone who was not a witness to the conversation between Pilate and Jesus, then it must be fictionalized, obviously. It is nothing more than a speculative reconstruction written by someone trying to create some religionist dot points. What else is it other than a fictionalized account?

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
I have said nothing concerning the conversation that existed between Pilate and Jesus, on the other hand you have inadvertently blurted out that its fictional, so where is the evidence for the claim that you have made?

Do you believe John 18:38 onwards to be an actual account of the conversation?