The Garden of Eden

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
sorry i don't really deal in assumption, I prefer to be able to substantiate my claims. Do you often make claims Andy that you cannot substantiate.

We can consider the Book of Genesis a work of fiction based on the absence of valid evidence to the contrary.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
try it, cheer yourself up, if all else fails you can sew it into a balloon.

I can understand why you don't want to apologise, but can I ask, do you think it is acceptable to make false statements about other Christians in this forum?

Originally posted by FMF
Perhaps there is someone else here who can establish the veracity of the Bible passage giving an account of a conversation between Pilate and Jesus? robbie, in his efforts to demonstrate the veracity of the Bible, has somehow ended up refusing to state whether this account is true or not. Is there anyone else who can make the case?

wow asking others to make good on their claims while you cannot make good on yours, hmmm, I am sure there is a word for that.

Originally posted by FMF
Perhaps there is someone else here who can establish the veracity of the Bible passage giving an account of a conversation between Pilate and Jesus? robbie, in his efforts to demonstrate the veracity of the Bible, has somehow ended up refusing to state whether this account is true or not. Is there anyone else who can make the case?

Why won't robbie carrobie state that the account is true? I don't get that..

Originally posted by divegeester
I can understand why you don't want to apologise, but can I ask, do you think it is acceptable to make false statements about other Christians in this forum?

I have nothing to say on what is acceptable or not acceptable on this forum, i think you'll find it in the terms of service.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
wow asking others to make good on their claims while you cannot make good on yours, hmmm, I am sure there is a word for that.

I am asking whether there is anyone who can establish the veracity of the Bible account of the conversation between Pilate and Jesus. You are refusing to state whether you believe it's true. Its veracity, therefore, is hardly going to be established by you. Perhaps there is someone else who can have a go?

Originally posted by divegeester
Why won't robbie carrobie state that the account is true? I don't get that..

I think a much better question is why FMF wont tell us what evidence forms the basis for his truth claim that its fictional, dont you.

Originally posted by divegeester
Why won't robbie carrobie state that the account is true? I don't get that..

He has reached positions like this before.

Originally posted by FMF
I am asking whether there is anyone who can establish the veracity of the Bible account of the conversation between Pilate and Jesus. You are refusing to state whether you believe it's true. Its veracity, therefore, is hardly going to be established by you. Perhaps there is someone else who can have a go?

sure you are and yet we are still left with the unresolved position of you making truth claims that you cannot substantiate. Do you often make claims you cannot substantiate.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
I think a much better question is why FMF wont tell us what evidence forms the basis for his truth claim that its fictional, dont you.

The account was written long after the event by someone who was not a witness to the conversation between Pilate and Jesus, then it must be fictionalized, obviously. It is nothing more than a speculative reconstruction written by someone trying to create some religionist dot points. Why are you unwilling to state whether or not the Biblical account is true? No one here in this conversation is claiming it isn't fictional. Not you. Not me.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
I think a much better question is why FMF wont tell us what evidence forms the basis for his truth claim that its fictional, dont you.

No, I don't actually. I think you should fez up and answer questions put to you and stop telling lies about other posters.

Originally posted by FMF
The account was written long after the event by someone who was not a witness to the conversation between Pilate and Jesus, then it must be fictionalized, obviously. It is nothing more than a speculative reconstruction written by someone trying to create some religionist dot points. Why are you unwilling to state whether or not the Biblical account is true? No one here in this conversation is claiming it isn't fictional. Not you. Not me.

Not a shred of evidence, I think Finnegan hit this kind of post right on the button,

This is an opinion piece and contains no new information, if it contains any information at all. As such, the hot air is entirely wasted except to sustain the self esteem of those with fixed opinions wanting to escape the unpleasant world of fact checkers.

What actual factual information does your post contain?

Originally posted by divegeester
No, I don't actually. I think you should fez up and answer questions put to you and stop telling lies about other posters.

so you dont, well i think you do.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
so you dont, well i think you do.

do what?

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
Not a shred of evidence, I think Finnegan hit this kind of post right on the button,

This is an opinion piece and contains no new information, if it contains any information at all. As such, the hot air is entirely wasted except to sustain the self esteem of those with fixed opinions wanting to escape the unpleasant world of fact checkers.

Neither of us is willing to state that the Bible passage in question is true. Its veracity has no advocate in this conversation.