The Gospel of Jesus vs The Gospel of Paul

So the folly of this thread is the theory that Christ's preaching is somehow VS what the Apostle Paul preached.

ThinkofOne has two problems as far as my experience with him:

1.) What Christ preached means his restricted, cherry picked, selective, bias laden version of Christ's preaching. (Some words prior to His death, nothing after resurrection).

2.) He is not familiar with what Paul preached. I don't think he reads much about it.

It is a combination of prejudicial bias plus ignorance.

Prejudicial bias - this is signaled by his anti supernatural attitude expressed in the words "Jesus as He walked on earth."

Ignorance - I think ThingofOne has taken in a concept that all Paul taught was Justification by Faith.

In the latter instance I never have gotten the impression that ToO really reads for himself the epistles of Paul. Rather he observes perhaps a Reformed Protestant emphasis on Justification (as if Romans only four chapters rather than sixteen), and ridiculously blames this neglect on Paul.

The plea he makes to "C'mon jaywill" seems designed to give the portray that I only need to be just a wee little bit more reasonable and I will see things his way. Not much of a change has to be made, just a little bit of reasonableness and his heretical concepts will be as plain as day to me.

I have asked him to specify what Jesus taught that we could not find in the preaching and teaching of Paul.

Did you see any examples yet? I didn't.

Originally posted by @fmf
[quote]If you are not talking about my character when you refer to things like my supposed lack of...

[b]integrity, courage, honesty, boldness, honour, bravery, worth, inventiveness, creativity, smartness, praiseworthiness etc.

[gosh, you mentioned a lot of character attributes in a small amount of text]

...then what are you referring to?

And ...[text shortened]... e what was what with your list of abstract nouns/character flaws ~ followed by you disappearing.[/b]

Originally posted by @jacob-verville
I think that this has been edited. Where is the original post?

Originally posted by @fmf
[b]Then what is your notion of a soul or spirit?

I think as humans ~ whether we be theists or atheists ~ we are endowed with a capacity for projecting ourselves in abstract ways and also we are affected and influenced and shaped by the abstract projections of other people.

Added to this, we clearly have individual spirits ~ perhaps the same thing tha ...[text shortened]... I think this 12 minute answer addresses your question 'What is your notion of a soul or spirit?'[/b]

Originally posted by @philokalia
Why do you call it a spirit and not a psyche, though?

Originally posted by @philokalia
And how can an abstract relationship actually be considered a part of you?

Originally posted by @philokalia
It's merely a collection of memories within your brain.

Originally posted by @philokalia
It's merely a collection of memories within your brain.

At most you can say it influenced your habits.

Originally posted by @fmf
Habits. Actions. Hopes. Plans. Decisions. Emotions. Religious beliefs/materialism. Moral sensibilities.The list goes on and on.

"Merely a collection of memories" that "influences your habits" is "merely" your disappointingly lacklustre way of describing the unique "spirit" that constitutes our individual and unique personhoods ~ that you might call our "sou ...[text shortened]... all manner of religions that offer the certainty that such an endless existence actually exists.

Originally posted by @romans1009
Where did/does what you identify as the human spirit come from?

Originally posted by @fmf
The nature of the human spirit is ~at least in the hypothesis I am putting forward ~ as I have already explained. The speculation that it must necessarily "come from" something or somewhere or someone is your prerogative. What I have described doesn't need to "come from" anyone except the parents that created each and every one of us.

Originally posted by @fmf
The nature of the human spirit is ~at least in the hypothesis I am putting forward ~ as I have already explained. The speculation that it must necessarily "come from" something or somewhere or someone is your prerogative. What I have described doesn't need to "come from" anyone except the parents that created each and every one of us.

Originally posted by @romans1009
That’s a long way of saying you have no idea.

Originally posted by @romans1009
Do you think what you are identifying as a spirit is restricted to humans or do animals also have it?

Originally posted by @romans1009
BTW, the Bible, unless I’m mistaken, identifies two spirits - the human spirit that everyone has and the Holy Spirit who indwells Christians upon their acceptance of Christ.