The gospel

@kellyjay said
I agree that all of us are sinners,
I agree all sin is filthy.
I agree with the statement YOU made about me that I believe that.
I was following your statement that I agree with it; if you want to push that into another context, it is meaningless and has nothing to do with the context I was commenting about when I responded.

@rajk999 said
Im demonstrating how totally alien you are from the teachings and Gospel of Christ. Watch the stark difference:

Jesus told people to live righteously, do good works and go and sin no more, and they will have eternal life in the Kingdom of God.

Your church preaches that people are filthy sinners, they cannot stop sinning and no amount of effort on their part to live righteously and do good works will be rewarded.

@rajk999 said
Im demonstrating how totally alien you are from the teachings and Gospel of Christ. Watch the stark difference:

Jesus told people to live righteously, do good works and go and sin no more, and they will have eternal life in the Kingdom of God.

Your church preaches that people are filthy sinners, they cannot stop sinning and no amount of effort on their part to live righteously and do good works will be rewarded.

@kellyjay said
I'm not the one claiming some things are true according to scripture, and in the face of text that shows it doesn't, ignore the scripture that refutes your false claims.

Are all sinners, yes or no?

It isn't a personal question because it concerns the whole human race.
Do we require Jesus to save us from our sins, is that good news?

1 John

This is the message we ...[text shortened]... om all unrighteousness. If we say we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.

@kellyjay said
Unless you are claiming we can live sinless lives, what you are suggesting is simply not taking into account the whole word of God. Do you think anyone walking the planet right now is doing it sinlessly on their power, with their righteousness?

@rajk999 said
Jesus preached the [glad tidings] Gospel of the Kingdom of God.

And it came to pass afterward, that he went throughout every city and village, preaching and shewing the glad tidings of the kingdom of God: and the twelve were with him, (Luke 8:1 KJV)

Nothing of your church gospel vaguely resembles what Jesus preached.

@rajk999 said
I dont know everyone on the planet, neither am I interested in such things. You seem to be obsessed with sin so while you preach your gospel of sin, Jesus preached the Gospel of the Kingdom and what people must do to enter. Its all about good works and righteousness which you condemn by saying nobody can do good works and live righteously.

@kellyjay said
You are suggesting there is sinlessness among us, that we are all not sinners because of some good works, as if good works alone can make one righteous. I'm saying we are all sinners; I've given you scripture to back that up; you are claiming that is not true. So it is your word against what is written in the Bible. Even the quotes you presented don't make a claim; some are ...[text shortened]... ct few among us are perfect by the works they do; they don't need Jesus to clean them of their sins.

@rajk999 said
Ok we going in circles. I amswered all those questions already. Im done.

@kellyjay said
Not once here have you.

@Rajk999
More than 200 posts and Rajk999 still has no assurance of his salvation and is self righteously hoping for the best.

Maybe God will approve your bad mouthing of churches as your righteousness ?

More than 200 posts and Rajk999 still cannot bring himself to confess the resurrection of Jesus Christ except on some pseudo gnostic unphysical sense.

@rajk999 said
After 200 posts if you dont know what I believe or if I dont know what you believe then we are wasting our time.

@kellyjay said
The only thing I got out of this conversation is you don't go by the whole Bible, you have select scriptures you use, and even they don't line up the way you present them.

@rajk999 said
The whole bible ?
This makes me laugh and you keep saying it. What exactly is the whole bible? Do you even know? Which bible. There are many
- the one used by the early patriarchs
- the one used by Christ
- the one used by the Apostles
- the one used by the early church
- the one used in the 18th century
- the one used now by the Catholic Church
- the one used now ...[text shortened]... amnation.. Your church preaches a do nothing doctrine and that means you are heading for damnation.

@kellyjay said
Ephesians

For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast.