The gospel

@kellyjay said
Depart from me I never knew you.

@rajk999 said
Correct. Jesus said that to evil men who pretended to be righteous .. like the church types. They were busy
- casting out devils
- performing miracles
- prophesying
- speaking in tongues
Those are not the commandments of Christ and those are not good works
They did not KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS

[i]Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not p ...[text shortened]... ch do not preach the keeping of the commandments. You are in line to hear those words from Christ.

@kellyjay said
They were boasting about their works, their works were not denied they were because although they had good works they didn’t know Jesus. We are all sinners in need of Christ grace to take away our sins.

@rajk999 said
Can you not read? Jesus called them WORKERS OF INIQUITY. In case you do not know, that means they are DOERS OF EVIL DEEDS Of course Jesus condemned them because they did no good deeds.

Of course we are sinners BUT WE STILL HAVE TO KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS
Of course we need the Grace of God BUT WE STILL HAVE TO KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS

They r ...[text shortened]...
Are you sure you believe in Christ.
It sure seems like you have place the church ahead of Christ.

@kellyjay said
A. Are all sinners?
B. Do good works alone.clean us from past sin?
C. Does the scripture confirm we must be born again?
D. Is God required to be born again?

I say again not disputing obeying God isn’t important.
John 6
Jesus answered them, “This is the work of God, that you believe in him whom he has sent.”

@rajk999 said
You are correct again. I missed out certain things .. Here we go again

Of course ALL are sinners BUT WE STILL HAVE TO KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS
Good works does not clean anyone from past sin, who said it did. YOU STILL HAVE TO KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS
You must be born again BUT YOU STILL HAVE TO KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS
You have to believe in Christ, and those who do ... STILL H ...[text shortened]... ays he does not know those who do not keep the commandments. He will say to them 'I never knew you'.

@kellyjay said
Yes, and not once in the whole time we have spoken to one another do I ever say break any commandments! You only get from me our righteousness must come from God, He must be in our lives literally, we must be born again. Jesus takes away our sins by His sacrifice for us, we cannot make ourselves clean enough for God to be accepted by Him on our own. Our works are not enough ...[text shortened]... efore God will come up short. Jesus is the Way, Truth, and Life no one comes to God but through Him.

@rajk999 said
Your silence on the necessity to keep the commandments is deafening. Claiming that you dont tell people to disobey the commandments is both lame and deceitful. But you are a saved born again church Christian so I suppose we can expect nothing less.

@kellyjay said
The most important part of our salvation is Jesus Christ so that is prominent and without Jesus as our Lord and Savior everything else is meaningless.

@rajk999 said
Like you for example... you do not have Jesus Christ in your life. The bible says that only those who abide in the doctrine of Christ, ie the commandments, have Christ and God in their lives.

I think you are mistakenly believing that your profession of faith with your mouth makes Jesus Christ your Lord and Saviour but that is your church doctrine.

Jesus said no such thing.

@KellyJay

Kelly the man has been deceived to the point of obsession with a thought. That thought is - to believe in Jesus Christ is the disobey the commandments of Jesus Christ.

His obsessional thought is that to have faith in Christ is disobedience to the commandments of Christ.

It is a subtle attack against the Lordship of Jesus Christ.
If you probe I am pretty certain that beneath the subtlety Rajk999 doesn't accept
that Jesus is the resurrected Lord. When did you ever hear him teach the
resurrection of Christ?

Kelly,

The book of Galatians was written to deal with this kind of evil spirit - "this present evil age" (Gal. 1:4) . That is an evil religious age.

Notice Paul who Rajk999 viciously undermines wrote that that he was an apostle "not from men nor through man" Paul battling the Judaizers opposing he apostleship emphasized the resurrected Christ was the source of His being an apostle.

"Paul, an apostle (not from men nor through man but through Jesus Christ and God the Father, who raised Him from the dead.)" (Gal. 1:1)

In Galatians God's apostle wrestled with those who came preaching another gospel and another Jesus. It was even a kind of witchcraft they were involved in.

"O foolish Galatians, who has BEWITCHED you, . . . ?" (3:1a) .

Their activity astounded Paul and forced him to marvel at the negative effect it had on the churches in Galatia.

"I marvel that you are so quickly removing from Him who has called you in the grace of Christ to a different gospel, which is not another gospel, only there are some who trouble you and desire to pervert the gospel of Christ." (1:6,7)

You will notice that these Judaizers also did not believe Paul's appointment from God and accused him of just being a people pleaser. In other words they spread rumors that they were the real deal and Paul was just tickling people's ears with what they wanted to hear - real easy stuff.

"For am I now trying to win the assent of men or of God? Or am I seeking to please men? If I were still trying to please men, I would not be a slave of Christ." (1:10)

It is uncanny how much the attitude of these gospel perverting legalists is so much reflected in Rajk999's work. Rajk999 undermines Christ using selectively some of His words. And he undermines His apostle inserting that he was nothing but a man pleaser.

Paul begins his letter to the Galatians that his apostleship is from God who raised Jesus. And his gospel is not according to man's preference.

"For I make known to you, brothers, concerning the gospel announced by me, that it is not according to man. For neither did I receive it from man, nor was I taught it, but I received it through a revelation of Jesus Christ." (1:11,12)

@sonship said
@KellyJay

Kelly the man has been deceived to the point of obsession with a thought. That thought is - to believe in Jesus Christ is the disobey the commandments of Jesus Christ.

His obsessional thought is that to have faith in Christ is disobedience to the commandments of Christ.

It is a subtle attack against the Lordship of Jesus Christ.
If you pr ...[text shortened]... hat Jesus is the resurrected Lord. When did you ever hear him teach the
resurrection of Christ?

@sonship said
Kelly,

The book of Galatians was written to deal with this kind of evil spirit - "this present evil age" (Gal. 1:4) . That is an evil religious age.

Notice Paul who Rajk999 viciously undermines wrote that that he was an apostle "not from men nor through man" Paul battling the Judaizers opposing he apostleship emphasized the resurrected Christ was ...[text shortened]... aft they were involved in.

"O foolish Galatians, who has BEWITCHED you, . . . ?" (3:1a) .