Spirituality
25 Oct 21
@kellyjay saidTHE WHOLE BIBLE? Do you even know what you are talking about. If my pet scriptures is the teachings and commandments of Christ then I am in good shape... unlike you. Jesus gives eternal life based on who kept the commandments. Profession of faith alone is DEAD FAITH. You are here condemning the keeping of the commandments and discouraging people from listening to Jesus Christ. What a blooming hypocrite you are.
You say that as if you have a clue between anyone and God's relationships. You don't, you also don't know what church I go to, what their doctrine is, and you still pass judgment as if you are in the know. As I have pointed out to you numerous times, THE WHOLE BIBLE is what you need to concern yourself with, not just your pet scriptures. The Lord is our salvation, not our ef ...[text shortened]... away our sins, and it is He who intercedes for us sitting right now at the right hand of the Father.
Jesus knows and abides in, only those who keep the commandments. Your relationship with Christ only starts when you start to keep the commandments. Only those who abides in the doctrine of Christ have Christ in their lives. Let me know if you want the references for these, statements.
As it stands, all you have is your church. You have denied the doctrine of Christ and you have denied the teachings of Christ.
10 Nov 21
@rajk999 saidNone of us are worthy of God's favor; we are all sinners; if we trust in our righteousness, we will be cast out. That is like saying our good works make us worthy of God; we are sinners, the blood of the sinless Savior is what matters in our lives, and even there, God has mercy on who He will have mercy, many are called few are chosen. The way is narrow; it is Jesus or nothing; there is no dispute that we will be doing good works, that isn't even a question as far as scripture is concerned, but without Jesus Christ, you will die in your sins.
THE WHOLE BIBLE? Do you even know what you are talking about. If my pet scriptures is the teachings and commandments of Christ then I am in good shape... unlike you. Jesus gives eternal life based on who kept the commandments. Profession of faith alone is DEAD FAITH. You are here condemning the keeping of the commandments and discouraging people from listening to J ...[text shortened]... is your church. You have denied the doctrine of Christ and you have denied the teachings of Christ.
Jesus gives eternal life to those He loves because He loves them, He gives His life to them, and they become born of God. Once born again, the Spirit of God resides in them; God promises that you don't seem to acknowledge that comes straight out of scripture. You must think the Bible is lying when these claims are made because it doesn't fit the whole doctrine of rajk999, as if your private interpretation alone is above all of the scripture.
Luke 11:13
If you then, who are evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will the heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to those who ask him!”
Galatians 3:2
Let me ask you only this: Did you receive the Spirit by works of the law or by hearing with faith?
John 7:39
Now this he said about the Spirit, whom those who believed in him were to receive, for as yet the Spirit had not been given, because Jesus was not yet glorified.
Everything about your gospel is earthly; it resides in the people's merit, the worthiness of someone obeying a set of rules to the point that God isn't required, and as you seem to deny, God actually is taking part in His salvation beyond given rules. You deny God in the salvation of His People and replace it will rule alone.
@kellyjay saidMore Dead Faith ..
None of us are worthy of God's favor; we are all sinners; if we trust in our righteousness, we will be cast out. That is like saying our good works make us worthy of God; we are sinners, the blood of the sinless Savior is what matters in our lives, and even there, God has mercy on who He will have mercy, many are called few are chosen. The way is narrow; it is Jesus or nothi ...[text shortened]... tion beyond given rules. You deny God in the salvation of His People and replace it will rule alone.
The Gospel of Christ, is earthly? Only one of Satans followers would be brave enough to say that.
10 Nov 21
@rajk999 saidYour gospel is worldly not what is found in scripture. The vast number of people believe they are okay, the live good lives, their good outweighs their bad. What you preach is that but you throw in Jesus Christ, as if that cleans up anything by adding a few pet scripture while ignoring all of the scripture that shows your error.
More Dead Faith ..
The Gospel of Christ, is earthly? Only one of Satans followers would be brave enough to say that.
I don’t deny we are to be perfect, we are to obey God. It is God calling us that matters, not us being so good in our lives that God is now under some obligation to accept us.
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10 Nov 21
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Kelly, I don't think there is any resurrection of Christ in this man's so-called "gospel".
What commandment did the dying thief in Luke 23 do that Jesus said that day he would be with Him in paradise? As far as I can see he believed that Jesus would rise from the dead. Somehow he received revelation that even though the three of them were being executed to death on crosses, Jesus, he knew, would live again and reign in His kingdom.
"And he said, Jesus, remember me when You come into Your kingdom. And He said to him, Truly I say to you, Today you shall be with Me in Paradise." (Luke 23:42,43)
What poor did he feed?
What alms did he give?
What commandment of Jesus did he keep?
He had a gift of faith and by revelation knew that though dying that day Jesus, would rise again and come into His kingdom.
I believe Luke included this record to emphasize that it was the saving faith to the thief to believe that Christ would rise again. He believed that Jesus was Lord and that God would raise Jesus from the dead to be Lord in His kingdom.
@kellyjay saidI have quoted the Gospel of Christ.
Your gospel is worldly not what is found in scripture. The vast number of people believe they are okay, the live good lives, their good outweighs their bad. What you preach is that but you throw in Jesus Christ, as if that cleans up anything by adding a few pet scripture while ignoring all of the scripture that shows your error.
I don’t deny we are to be perfect, we are t ...[text shortened]... that matters, not us being so good in our lives that God is now under some obligation to accept us.
You have quoted a twisted version of the Gospel of Paul.
You are on the wrong team.
Your team practices DEAD FAITH and will reap damnation
You ignore the LIVING FAITH preached by Christ, Paul, Peter, James, John and Jude.
Living Faith - Faith PLUS WORKS .. the good works , the keeping of the commandments, leads to eternal life.
Not Faith and maybe some works that God gave you to do.
What a bunch of rubbish your church put in your head.
What a moron you have to be to believe that Baloney..
[Yeah and continue to listen to sonship bray in the background
That fool already got one foot in hell]
10 Nov 21
@rajk999 saidThe things I have shared I have scripture that isn’t contradicting any other scripture as what you preach, I do not ignore the promises of God as you do. Again not once do I suggest we are not to do good works, to obey God’s commands. No matter how times you accuse me of that.
I have quoted the Gospel of Christ.
You have quoted a twisted version of the Gospel of Paul.
You are on the wrong team.
Your team practices DEAD FAITH and will reap damnation
You ignore the LIVING FAITH preached by Christ, Paul, Peter, James, John and Jude.
Living Faith - Faith PLUS WORKS .. the good works , the keeping of the commandments, leads to eternal life.
Not F ...[text shortened]... ah and continue to listen to sonship bray in the background
That fool already got one foot in hell]
@kellyjay saidJesus Christ referred to the keeping of His commandments as an essential REQUIREMENT for eternal life in the Kingdom of God ... many times.
The things I have shared I have scripture that isn’t contradicting any other scripture as what you preach, I do not ignore the promises of God as you do. Again not once do I suggest we are not to do good works, to obey God’s commands. No matter how times you accuse me of that.
You have referred to the commandments of Jesus Christ as works salvation and that people to do good works as attempting to save themselves. Both these statements are derogatory and an attempt to belittle the Gospel of Christ, and you are aware of the derogatory nature of these comments and yet you persist in making them.
10 Nov 21
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@rajk999 saidNo, I am telling you God is sovereign He is not compelled to do anything by anyone there are no exceptions to that. God’s Word tells us we are without exception sinners, God’s Word tells us Jesus Christ is the only way to God acceptable to God. These are not in dispute in scripture we can not obligate God by anything we do, or say.
Jesus Christ referred to the keeping of His commandments as an essential REQUIREMENT for eternal life in the Kingdom of God ... many times.
You have referred to the commandments of Jesus Christ as works salvation and that people to do good works as attempting to save themselves. Both these statements are derogatory and an attempt to belittle the Gospel of Christ, and you are aware of the derogatory nature of these comments and yet you persist in making them.
God sent Christ into a world of sinners that is not in dispute in scripture, to save sinners. You are saying He is only accepting the righteousness of man as we now obey. We had the Law and the Commandments they didn’t make anyone sinless, as righteous as those two are they only showed us how sinful we are. What you promote is a righteousness based on our work no one can do that flawlessly. God’s mercy in Christ saves us from our just condemnation by Jesus being our propitiation our Savior, someone faithful and true.
You are earning your spot in God’s Kingdom by your attempts at following what you call Christ’s commands. You are attempting to earn what God gives as a gift.
10 Nov 21
@kellyjay saidMore dead faith.
No, I am telling you God is sovereign He is not compelled to do anything by anyone there are no exceptions to that. God’s Word tells us we are without exception sinners, God’s Word tells us Jesus Christ is the only way to God acceptable to God. These are not in dispute in scripture we can not obligate God by anything we do, or say.
God sent Christ into a world of sinners ...[text shortened]... s at following what you call Christ’s commands. You are attempting to earn what God gives as a gift.
10 Nov 21
@rajk999 saidDead faith is not walking out one's faith in life, simply saying I have faith in God does not translate automatically into, I'm not doing all the things you think should be done. What that does suggest is all the things I am doing with my life are because God has shown His great mercy already in this life, He has shown me already His great kindness to me in this life, He has given me His Spirit to an undeserving sinner who when He saved me and continues to save me is unworthy of the least of His mercies.
More dead faith.
To suggest faith means dead works right out of the gate is once again, as you have proven to do, judge and condemn without any knowledge outside of your prejudice. Loving someone is taking care of their needs; practicing one's faith before God is not broadcasting it before men, so they applaud your good works, as you seem to demand.
The Word of God says you must be born again even to see the Kingdom of God, and it doesn't matter if you think I am or not; scripture makes that a must. The Word of God says that if you do not have the Spirit of God, you do not belong to Him; it doesn't matter if you think I have Him in my life or not; the scripture is clear, so again it is not what you think about me, it is what the scripture says that is essential.
Now there was a man of the Pharisees named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews. This man came to Jesus by night and said to him, “Rabbi, we know that you are a teacher come from God, for no one can do these signs that you do unless God is with him.” Jesus answered him, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born again he cannot see the kingdom of God.”
Romans 8:9
You, however, are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if in fact the Spirit of God dwells in you. Anyone who does not have the Spirit of Christ does not belong to him.
John 10:27
My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me.
@kellyjay saidYou are pretty dense so I will explain what I mean.
Dead faith is not walking out one's faith in life, simply saying I have faith in God does not translate automatically into, I'm not doing all the things you think should be done. What that does suggest is all the things I am doing with my life are because God has shown His great mercy already in this life, He has shown me already His great kindness to me in this life, He has ...[text shortened]... erving sinner who when He saved me and continues to save me is unworthy of the least of His mercies.
I dont care to know, neither do I ask people, what they do and do not do in their daily lives, and I do not tell people what I do. That is not part of the discussion. So all your comments are null and void.
What I said is that YOU PREACH DEAD FAITH. I have no knowledge of what you actually DO, neither do I care to know. The fact that you brought up your own personal life says that your conscience is bothering you.
Preaching dead faith is a sin and this is when you tell people that a profession of faith alone will give them eternal life. That is a false doctrine. Jesus and all the Apostles preached faith + works as the only sure way to eternal life. Faith without works leads to damnation and this is what you preach.
11 Nov 21
@rajk999 saidDead faith is not living your beliefs you simply are against faith.
You are pretty dense so I will explain what I mean.
I dont care to know, neither do I ask people, what they do and do not do in their daily lives, and I do not tell people what I do. That is not part of the discussion. So all your comments are null and void.
What I said is that YOU PREACH DEAD FAITH. I have no knowledge of what you actually DO, neither do I care to kn ...[text shortened]... e only sure way to eternal life. Faith without works leads to damnation and this is what you preach.
11 Nov 21
@kellyjay saidMaybe you should do some English Comprehension classes.
Dead faith is not living your beliefs you simply are against faith.
Just in case you need to be told again, here is what I believe
I am against FAITH ALONE, that means I favour Faith + Works
Im in good company along with Jesus and ALL the Apostles.
Faith alone is condemned, and this is what you and your church promotes
11 Nov 21
@rajk999 saidI have zero issues with faith and works; I acknowledge them. It is the grace of God that saves us. My works do not save me; they are there as a result of my salvation, not a means to getting saved.
Maybe you should do some English Comprehension classes.
Just in case you need to be told again, here is what I believe
I am against FAITH ALONE, that means I favour Faith + Works
Im in good company along with Jesus and ALL the Apostles.
Faith alone is condemned, and this is what you and your church promotes