Spirituality
25 Oct 21
@kellyjay saidOk ... Jesus said he preached the Gospel in Luke 7 and sent out the disciples to preach the Gospel, Tell me what was the Gospel message that Jesus preached up to that point. Its all in the early chapters of Luke and Matthew. and I already quoted to you what Jesus said.
You are walking away because you want to, don't pretend there is any other reason. I'm asking you for the truth; tell me where it is. I'm wrong. I didn't say walking away from me is like walking away from Christ; what I did say is to be like Christ, you'd respond to someone asking for help. Even in the Old Testaments, some of the evilest of the Kings, when they humbled thems ...[text shortened]... for help, He helped. You laugh and walk away as if that is somehow the right spiritual thing to do.
If you refuse to answer then ... TAKE A HIKE.
30 Oct 21
@rajk999 saidThen Jesus answering said unto them, Go your way, and tell John what things ye have seen and heard; how that the blind see, the lame walk, the lepers are cleansed, the deaf hear, the dead are raised, to the poor the gospel is preached. And blessed is he, whosoever shall not be offended in me. (Luke 7:22-23 KJV)
Ok ... Jesus said he preached the Gospel in Luke 7 and sent out the disciples to preach the Gospel, Tell me what was the Gospel message that Jesus preached up to that point. Its all in the early chapters of Luke and Matthew. and I already quoted to you what Jesus said.
If you refuse to answer then ... TAKE A HIKE.
31 Oct 21
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@divegeester saidYou complained about something I posted over an hour-long; you didn't watch it; here is something around 4 minutes, and you don't watch that either but ask questions about it. Why bother responding to any links since you don't watch them no matter how long they are? Watch it and tell me what you think or don't, and if you don't, you don't have to tell me you are not going to watch it. I do not read many posts but do not need to post in them telling everyone involved I don't intend to read this post.
Does the 4 minutes include a précis on what happens to those who decide that they cannot believe?
Personally, I'd love to hear your opinion of the link to tell you the truth.
31 Oct 21
@kellyjay saidBut I already know what the gospel story is so there is no need for me personally to listen to the video.
You complained about something I posted over an hour-long; you didn't watch it; here is something around 4 minutes, and you don't watch that either but ask questions about it. Why bother responding to any links since you don't watch them no matter how long they are? Watch it and tell me what you think or don't, and if you don't, you don't have to tell me you are not going to ...[text shortened]... d to read this post.
Personally, I'd love to hear your opinion of the link to tell you the truth.
My question was aimed most specifically about what happens to the people who don’t find that they are able to believe this gospel story.
But if that topic is too touchy for you, that’s fine.
31 Oct 21
@divegeester saidStart a new thread if you want to know what I think. I'd be happy to engage if you are interested in that conversation.
But I already know what the gospel story is so there is no need for me personally to listen to the video.
My question was aimed most specifically about what happens to the people who don’t find that they are able to believe this gospel story.
But if that topic is too touchy for you, that’s fine.
@divegeester saidAll people will be judged fairly, despite their personal beliefs or disbeliefs
My question was aimed most specifically about what happens to the people who don’t find that they are able to believe this gospel story.
For God will reward each of us according to what we have done. Some people keep on doing good, and seek glory, honor, and immortal life; to them God will give eternal life. Other people are selfish and reject what is right, in order to follow what is wrong; on them God will pour out his anger and fury. There will be suffering and pain for all those who do what is evil, for the Jews first and also for the Gentiles. But God will give glory, honor, and peace to all who do what is good, to the Jews first and also to the Gentiles. For God judges everyone by the same standard. (Romans 2:6-11 GNB)
31 Oct 21
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@divegeester saidHow pharisaical of you.
But I already know what the gospel story is so there is no need for me personally to listen to the video.
My question was aimed most specifically about what happens to the people who don’t find that they are able to believe this gospel story.
But if that topic is too touchy for you, that’s fine.
The Pharisees thought they knew God's will, too.
What is more important, the words in the Bible, or understanding God's will?
Words mean nothing without understanding. The problem is that there are billions of self-described Christians on the planet, and they all, every one of them, think they understand.
31 Oct 21
@suzianne saidOne of the scariest things in scripture is judgment; if we claim to know, we will be without excuse.
How pharisaical of you.
The Pharisees thought they knew God's will, too.
What is more important, the words in the Bible, or understanding God's will?
Words mean nothing without understanding. The problem is that there are billions of self-described Christians on the planet, and they all, every one of them, think they understand.
John 9:41
Jesus said to them, “If you were blind, you would have no guilt; but now that you say, ‘We see,’ your guilt remains.
01 Nov 21
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@rajk999 saidGod will judge, and He will show no partiality, those who with and without the law will be judged as they should be. Those who have sinned with the law will be judged by it, and those that have sinned without the law will perish without the law; everyone who does evil will be condemned. Those without the law will be a law unto themselves; with their judgment used in condemning anyone for anything shows, they have no excuse their conscience will bear witness excusing or condemning themselves in all matters.
All people will be judged fairly, despite their personal beliefs or disbeliefs
For God will reward each of us according to what we have done. Some people keep on doing good, and seek glory, honor, and immortal life; to them God will give eternal life. Other people are selfish and reject what is right, in order to follow what is wrong; on them God will pour out hi ...[text shortened]... irst and also to the Gentiles. For God judges everyone by the same standard. (Romans 2:6-11 GNB)
Romans 3:11-12
“None is righteous, no, not one; no one understands; no one seeks for God. All have turned aside; together they have become worthless; no one does good, not even one.”
If anyone thinks they are good enough to please God, they should think again; we have all sinned and fallen short. If they think their righteousness is good enough to be accepted by God on their own, they are delusional. We all have fallen short this is why we need a Saviour; we need Jesus Christ as Lord.
2 Corinthians 5:21
For our sake he made him to be sin who knew no sin, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God.
@kellyjay saidWhile you continue condemning and putting down people and saying they cannot do anything righteous, and they are all evil and sinful, Jesus will be welcoming the righteous [who he defined as the charitable Good Samaritans] into the Kingdom of God. The goats who sit on the sidelines doing nothing except ridiculing will be cast out.
God will judge, and He will show no partiality, those who with and without the law will be judged as they should be. Those who have sinned with the law will be judged by it, and those that have sinned without the law will perish without the law; everyone who does evil will be condemned. Those without the law will be a law unto themselves; with their judgment used in condemni ...[text shortened]... sake he made him to be sin who knew no sin, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God.
01 Nov 21
@rajk999 saidWe can do good things, love others, and do all the right things, but none of them diminish the evil thoughts and actions we also do. None of us can stand before God clean except through Jesus Christ.
While you continue condemning and putting down people and saying they cannot do anything righteous, and they are all evil and sinful, Jesus will be welcoming the righteous [who he defined as the charitable Good Samaritans] into the Kingdom of God. The goats who sit on the sidelines doing nothing except ridiculing will be cast out.
01 Nov 21
@rajk999 saidI am not picking one person over another. You do that. If you believe some among us are worthy of God's kingdom by their good works alone, you do that against Scripture. None of us are righteous on our own we require Christ saving grace.
While you continue condemning and putting down people and saying they cannot do anything righteous, and they are all evil and sinful, Jesus will be welcoming the righteous [who he defined as the charitable Good Samaritans] into the Kingdom of God. The goats who sit on the sidelines doing nothing except ridiculing will be cast out.
@kellyjay saidJesus is picking one person over another based on good works, not me
I am not picking one person over another. You do that. If you believe some among us are worthy of God's kingdom by their good works alone, you do that against Scripture. None of us are righteous on our own we require Christ saving grace.
Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in: Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me. (Matthew 25:34-36 KJV)
Nothing you say is taught by Christ. Are you saying that your authority is greater than Christ?
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02 Nov 21
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The sheep of the nations are saved because they believed in God the Creator (Rev. 14:6,7). Their God created conscience would not allow them to mistreat the Lord's brothers even to the least of them.
At the time they assisted the persecuted believers during the reign of the Antichrist they AT LEAST knew that the Antichrist was not God. And it was not right for him to starve out, jail out, poverty out, persecute and kill believers in God.
The goats followed Antichrist in his persecution of Jews and Christians because they would not go along with worshipping Antichrist as God. As a result they could not live because they were hunted and hounded as a menace to the public.
At the end of this present age things will polarize to that point when a powerful man will demand that to live you must acknowledge him as God.
Atheism is only a station along the way which ultimately leads to the adoration of Satan and his man invested completely with his power.
"And the whole earth marveled after the beast. And they worshipped the dragon [Satan] because he gave his authority to the beast; and they worshipped the beast because he [Satan] gave his authority to the beast, saying, Who is like the beast? And who can make war with him? " (Rev. 13:4)
It will be revealed to the world that the Lord Jesus can make war with the beast.
But before Jesus vanquishes him - "And there was given to him [the beast, Antichrist] a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies, and authority was given to him to act for forty-two months. And he opened his mouth for blasphemies against God, to blaspheme His name and His tabernacle, which tabernacle in heaven," (Rev. 13:5)