Spirituality
15 Aug 05
15 Aug 05
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Originally posted by Bosse de NageThe Holy Spirit is simply another name for God...Jesus proved that when he said that God is Spirit, and God is Holy.
What is it?
(All viewpoints welcome. Leave your firearms at the door.)
When the bible is talking about God's gift to man, it is holy spirit, which is given without measure to those who are "born again".
Holy spirit in a believer who understands God's Word can be manifested in many ways. Actually 9 ways, listed in 1 Cor. 12......But this manifestation can only happen when faith is combined with an accurate understanding of scripture.
16 Aug 05
Originally posted by checkbaitortranslate into english dude. so like if you havent seen the holy spirit you either dont have faith or dont have an understanding of scripture? huh? lol
The Holy Spirit is simply another name for God...Jesus proved that when he said that God is Spirit, and God is Holy.
When the bible is talking about God's gift to man, it is holy spirit, which is given without measure to those who are "born again".
Holy spirit in a believer who understands God's Word can be manifested in many ways. Actually 9 wa ...[text shortened]... anifestation can only happen when faith is combined with an accurate understanding of scripture.
16 Aug 05
Originally posted by FreaKinGeniusI don't understand your question. What is there to translate? I am simply stating what the bible says. You can't see spirit by the 5 senses. But you can see the manifestion of holy spirit. If you read 1Corinthians chapter 12 you will know what the 9 manifestations are. What language do you speak?
translate into english dude. so like if you havent seen the holy spirit you either dont have faith or dont have an understanding of scripture? huh? lol
16 Aug 05
Originally posted by checkbaitorApparently English and not BS like you.
I don't understand your question. What is there to translate? I am simply stating what the bible says. You can't see spirit by the 5 senses. But you can see the manifestion of holy spirit. If you read 1Corinthians chapter 12 you will know what the 9 manifestations are. What language do you speak?
16 Aug 05
Originally posted by PalynkaRead the first post on the page and tell me it's not gibberish. The next poster asked for a clearer explanation and our "Christian" friend insulted him by suggesting he couldn't read English. Hence, my post.
Why is it BS? The Holy Spirit is a Trinitarian Christian's definition, so the Bible is logically the best way to explain what Trinitarian Christians define as the Holy Spirit.
16 Aug 05
Originally posted by no1marauderWhat I saw was the patronizing "lol", "dude", "translate into English", "like" of the second post in this page, so I'm not surprised by our "friend"'s reaction.
Read the first post on the page and tell me it's not gibberish. The next poster asked for a clearer explanation and our "Christian" friend insulted him by suggesting he couldn't read English. Hence, my post.
If you don't have faith, like I don't, obviously you won't recognize the HS anywhere but the definition is theist in origin and does rely on faith. What is a coincidence for an atheist may be the Holy Spirit for the TC, so I guess faith is an integral and necessary part of how I would define the HS.
Trinitarianism (and obviously the HS) also depends on interpretation of the Bible (like he said) because there are a few Bible followers who do not accept the Trinity's equality (Mormons).
Personally, I never found a Christian that could properly explain me why the HS is considered an entity (person) separate from the Father, even if most of them consider the Trinity very important.
16 Aug 05
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Originally posted by PalynkaIf they're going to believe in something and post about it, then it's their obligation to explain it clearly. When I post about Lockean Fundamental Rights philosophy and someone asks me what it means, I try to explain it as best I can (except if I'm in a really vile mood). Our friend could have clarified his belief system, though I agree I've never heard it explained without it sounding like complete baloney.
What I saw was the patronizing "lol", "dude", "translate into English", "like" of the second post in this page, so I'm not surprised by our "friend"'s reaction.
If you don't have faith, like I don't, obviously you won't r ...[text shortened]... Father, even if most of them consider the Trinity very important.
16 Aug 05
Originally posted by no1marauderThe other guy didn't ask him, he made an insult in the form of a question.
If they're going to believe in something and post about it, then it's their obligation to explain it clearly. When I post about Lockean Fundamental Rights philosophy and someone asks me what it means, I try to explain it as best I can (except if I'm in a really vile mood). Our friend could have clarified his belief system, though I agree I've never heard it explained without it sounding like complete baloney.
Why should he indulge him?
16 Aug 05
Originally posted by PalynkaThis looks like a question to me:
The other guy didn't ask him, he made an insult in the form of a question.
Why should he indulge him?
so like if you havent seen the holy spirit you either dont have faith or dont have an understanding of scripture?
Where's the insult?
16 Aug 05
Originally posted by no1marauderAt best it's equal to checkbaitor's answer that you were whining about!
translate into english dude?
That's an insult?
"Translate into english dude"
"What language do you speak?"
Why is the first ok to you and the second is not?
Originally posted by no1marauder
The next poster asked for a clearer explanation and our "Christian" friend insulted him by suggesting he couldn't read English.