@sonship saidThere is no evidence from the teachings of the bible that there are blessings for reading or writing the bible. That is surely another church doctrinal lie that further encourages mouth worship.
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I usually write out the Bible verses by hand.
I get a double blessing from reading them as I look carefully and write them myself.
Occasionally when I want to refer to another version then the one on my desk, I go to Biblehub and copy and past like this:
King James Bible
For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.
New King James Version
For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.
Here is a sample of the kind of activities that bring blessings:
Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. Blessed are they that mourn: for they shall be comforted. Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth. Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness: for they shall be filled. Blessed are the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy. Blessed are the pure in heart: for they shall see God. Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God. Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake. Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you. (Matthew 5:3-12 KJV)
Not a single word about any blessing for reading or writing out the bible.
If there is such a reference please provide it.
Or maybe Jesus just neglected to mention it.
Seems to me that blessings come from good works and righteousness
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He does not. His church preaches that faith without works leads to temporary punishment, but eventually to eternal life. Ask him.
It is better to ask the New Testament.
John told his audience that at the time of their reading his letter they HAD eternal life.
"I have written these things to you that you may know that you have eternal life, to you who believe into the name of the Son of God." (1 John 3:14)
1.) They were in possession of eternal life who believed into Jesus.
In the very same letter John warns that if they did not learn to abide in Him the possibility existed that they would be put to shame from Him at His coming.
"And now, little children, abide in Him, so that if He is manifested, we may have boldness and not be put to shame from Him at His coming." (1 John 2:28)
We may assume that to be "put to shame from Him at His coming" would involve some sort of discipline. It is not here a feeling of being ashamed. It is the action of being punished by being PUT to shame from Him.
2.) Since the same audience HAS eternal life and since some could be put to shame as some kind of punishment, that discipline must be temporary. They have eternal life.
All discipline of the Father to His sons is for their perfecting (Hebrews 12:6-11)
@sonship saidMr Philokalia, I told you so.
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He does not. His church preaches that faith without works leads to temporary punishment, but eventually to eternal life. Ask him.
It is better to ask the New Testament.
John told his audience that at the time of their reading his letter they HAD eternal life.
"I have written these things to you that you may know that you have eternal l ...[text shortened]... life.
All discipline of the Father to His sons is for their perfecting [b](Hebrews 12:6-11)
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Where is the error in logic?
When the Lord is manifested some will have boldness before Him.
Some may be put to shame from Him at His coming.
Both groups have eternal life.
@sonship saidA whole lot of deception and cherry picking in there, and ignoring what John said :
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He does not. His church preaches that faith without works leads to temporary punishment, but eventually to eternal life. Ask him.
It is better to ask the New Testament.
John told his audience that at the time of their reading his letter they HAD eternal life.
"I have written these things to you that you may know that you have eternal l ...[text shortened]... life.
All discipline of the Father to His sons is for their perfecting [b](Hebrews 12:6-11)
FIRST KEEP THE COPMMANDMENTS
THEN
ETERNAL LIFE IS ASSURED.
Twisting the bible and ignoring the commandments, Then you want to know why I say you preach disobedience to the commandments. Here John is saying to keep the commandments and you ae saying it is not necessary, because you have eternal life by virtue of just professing faith.
He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life. These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God. (1 John 5:12-13 KJV)
By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments. For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous. (1 John 5:2-3 KJV)
And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments. He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. (1 John 2:3-4 KJV)
So here it is that you preach disobedience to the commandments. According to John this shows that :
- you do not love God / Christ
- you do not abide in Christ
- you do not have Christ
- therefore you do not have life
- you are a liar and the truth is not in you
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Look at the verses.
He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life. These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God. (1 John 5:12-13 KJV)
By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments. For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous. (1 John 5:2-3 KJV)
The keeping of His commandments is related to their loving their fellow children of God. The keeping of His commandments is related to their loving God.
You are the one twisting the verse's meaning.
Having eternal life is connected with having the Son of God. He is the life.
The life is in Him.
And the reason John says that His commandments are not burdensome is because of the indwelling grace of Christ living in them.
@sonship saidAccording to Jesus Christ, there are two kinds of people in this world. There is the wise man that keeps the commandments and then there is the fool that follows after your doctrine.
@Rajk999
Look at the verses.
[quote] He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life. These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God. (1 John 5:12-13 KJV)
By this we know that we love the children of God, ...[text shortened]... commandments are not burdensome is because of the indwelling grace of Christ living in them.
The Good Samaritan according to you gets eternal torment in hell, while the evil, greedy, selfish priests and Levites are rewarded with eternal life.
Nice Satanic doctrine you got there sonship.
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The Good Samaritan according to you gets eternal torment in hell, while the evil, greedy, selfish priests and Levites are rewarded with eternal life.
In the teaching of the Good Samaritan (Luke 10:25-37), I believe that the Good Samaritan represents Christ. I got persuaded after much consideration on hearing such a teaching, that that was indeed the case.
Christ in the teaching of the Good Samaritan is describing Himself.
He is being represented as the Good Samaritan. The Good Samaritan is Jesus.
The man beaten up by thieves and ignored by the religionists represents the lawyer to whom Jesus was telling the parable to.
Admittedly, at first for many years I did not see it this way initially.
@sonship saidOf course you would want to believe that. You are a hater of the commandments of Christ and you would take any excuse to change the clear teachings of Christ, and seek support for your mouth worshipping doctrine. But the truth is Jesus was NOT SPEAKING OF HIMSELF. Only a complete jacka$$ would believe that, and you are one.
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The Good Samaritan according to you gets eternal torment in hell, while the evil, greedy, selfish priests and Levites are rewarded with eternal life.
In the teaching of the Good Samaritan (Luke 10:25-37), I believe that the Good Samaritan represents Christ. I got persuaded after much consideration on hearing such a teaching, that that ...[text shortened]... telling the parable to.
Admittedly, at first for many years I did not see it this way initially.
Jesus was answering a simple question. .. How can one get eternal life in the Kingdom of God, and the answer was simple - Love God and do as the Good Samaritan did.
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No I don't think so.
Jesus told him - "You shall love the Lord your God from your whole heart and with your whole soul and with your whole strength and with your whole mind, and your neighbor as yourself."
Had he done this he would not have had to ask "And who is my neighbor?"
In fact he further tested the Lord Jesus, it says, "wanting to justify himself".
He was represented as the traveler going DOWN from Jerusalem the city of God to the cursed place of Jericho. He didn't realize that he was beaten up and robbed and on his way down to a cursed place trying to justify himself before God.
Jesus was represented as doing for him what his religion could not do. Heal, comfort, and keep him in His church until He returns in His second coming.
" . . . when I return, I will repay you." (v.35)
Jesus saves him with the oil of the Holy Spirit and the wine of divine life. Jesus leaves him with the new testament church to care for him until His second coming. Then He will reward the innkeeper (representing the church) for taking care of the sinner saved by Jesus.
"Go and you do likewise" means the Jesus the Son of God is the ONLY one who truly loved the Father out of His whole heart and whole soul and whole strength and whole mind and went to the cross for His fellow men. He is the reality of the Good Samaritan who poured into the wounds of fallen man the Holy Spirit as oil and His divine life as wine. (v. 34)
@sonship saidYou continue to discourage the keeping of the commandments.
@Rajk999
No I don't think so.
Jesus told him - "You shall love the Lord your God from your whole heart and with your whole soul and with your whole strength and with your whole mind, and your neighbor as yourself."
Had he done this he would not have had to ask "And who is my neighbor?"
In fact he further tested the Lord Jesus, it says, "wanting to ...[text shortened]... red into the wounds of fallen man the Holy Spirit as oil and His divine life as wine. [b](v. 34)
You and your dead faith will go straight to hell.
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You continue to discourage the keeping of the commandments.
Absolutely no proof of this are you able to produce.
You've been asked to show such a post from a thousand probably I wrote.
No tone even can you produce of "I advise you to not keep the commandments of the Lord Jesus once you receive Him."
You are bewitching the saints as the Judiazers did to the churches in Galatia.
"O foolish Galatians, who has BEWITCHED you . . .?, Did you receive that Spirit out of works of law or out of the hearing of faith?
Are you so foolish? Having begun by the Spirit, are you now being perfected by the flesh?" (Gal. 3:1a-3)
@sonship saidHere Jesus is telling people what they MUST DO to get eternal life in the Kingdom of God and you are contradicting Jesus by saying that Jesus is not doing that. Jesus specifically states to go and do like the Good Samaritan.
@Rajk999
You continue to discourage the keeping of the commandments.
Absolutely no proof of this are you able to produce.
You've been asked to show such a post from a thousand probably I wrote.
You are an evil man, leading the foolish to damnation.
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To enter into the kingdom of human life you FIRST must be conceived and born.
It is excellent to go to school. But you do not tell a person they have not become human because they have not yet gone to school.
First they must enter into the human kingdom by having the human life.
You do not say "Do not go to school because you are born."
Neither do we say "Do not obey the Lord because you are born again."
But the first thing of entering the kingdom of God is to have the life of God.
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"Jesus answered, Truly, truly, I say to you, Unless one is born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
Do not marvel that I said to you, You must be born anew." (John 3:5-7)
A vegetable can only enter into the vegetable kingdom by having the vegetable life.
And a cat can only enter into the cat kingdom by having the cat life.
And a human who has the human life enters into the human kingdom.
In John chapter 3 to enter into the kingdom of God you first must be born with the life of God - born anew.
Because you, Rajk999, are against the life of God coming into men and growing in men you will argue that to be born anew is VERSES obeying God.