@sonship saidSo you spend all your time in this forum blogging to a handful of people who find your teaching erroneous and you to be lacking in any credibility.
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I want to participate.
Sonship this thread by you, your posts contain content which I feel reflects the delusion you are held under by your church cult.
I just feel sorry for you.
To see you in here blogging this nonsensical error about “Jesus living in your heart” when that description and in fact the very concept of Jesus living in a person’s heart isn’t even in the bible , is just sad.
@sonship saidJesus taught by the example of a life so lived. Look at your own example: you learned nothing from the "Evaluate sonship" thread.
It is a fact that some people will decide that they do not want Jesus to live in their hearts. This may even sound like foolish sentimental talk for Jesus, they think, is not alive or available or is not God.
I am going to try to show some of you that you are ALREADY under the control of someone else living in you. And this one is making your life sad and miserable. Christ will give unspeakable joy.
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you learned nothing from the "Evaluate sonship" thread.
I learned maybe a thing or two.
Were you expecting me to grovel?
That's a thing of the past now.
You know? Like Paul wrote "Fogetting the things which are behind and stretching forward to the things which are before."
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In this thread I am trying to show something amazing when you think about it.
Spontaneously and even unconsciously in our fallen state we express Satan operating in us. We need not go to school to learn to lie, for example. Every parent realizes that their child will learn how to lie.
We simply express the devil. We have been infested with something which flows quite automatic from us as stream of bad thoughts, words, actions, behaviors. It is a spontaneous outflow of something called sin. And this sin is personified in the Bible.
What God is after is something
just as automatic,
just as spontaneous,
just as easily discharged
which is an expression of God in man - righteous, holy, right.
Imagine if you will a world in which it is SO EASY for the glory of a highest level of human morality to flow out spontaneously. That is like a reversal of the present situation. This is a reversal yet even more.
And it is accompanied by a new heaven and a new earth unscarred by the fall of Adam. Every lead on every tree, every molecule, every atom, every plant, animal, cloud, and all the environment will point to Christ and be headed up in Christ.
Yet, God prophesies that “the earth will be filled with the knowledge of the glory of the Lord, as the waters cover the sea” (Habakkuk 2:14 and elsewhere). In other words, God’s original purpose to fill the earth with his glory — his glory reflected through human beings — will be fulfilled.- Matt Perman
"But according to His promise we are expecting new heavens and a new earth, in which righteousness dwells." (2 Pet. 3:14)
@sonship saidDid you read what Peter said about how God will accomplish this so that righteousness will dwell throughout the world? He will destroy the wicked including all the born again Christian Saints in Christ with the Holy Spirit who continue on with a life of sin and evil. Contrary to your doctrine they will be also destroyed:
Yet, God prophesies that “the earth will be filled with the knowledge of the glory of the Lord, as the waters cover the sea” (Habakkuk 2:14 and elsewhere). In other words, God’s original purpose to fill the earth with his glory — his glory reflected through human beings — will be fulfilled.- Matt Perman
"But according to His promise we are expecting new heavens and a new earth, in which righteousness dwells." (2 Pet. 3:14)
For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning. For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them. (2 Peter 2:20-21 KJV)
Maybe you should stop preaching that there is no need to live righteously because you yourself will be with them.
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No Christian will perish forever.
Many Christians will be disciplined.
No one coming to Christ will He cast out so that he perishes forever.
"And I give them eternal life, and they shall by no means perish forever, and no one shall snatch them out of My hand.
My Father, who has given the, to Me, is greater than all, and no one can snatch them out of My Father's hand. I and the Father are one." (John 10:28-29)
1.) Who gave them to Jesus to be saved? "The Father".
2.) Did Rajk999 decide on who Jesus can have? No.
3.) Did Jesus give them eternal life of loan them temporarily eternal life?
He GAVE them eternal life.
4.) Will they by any means perish forever?
No because Jesus said "they shall by no means perish forever".
5.) Can anyone snatch them out of Christ's hand?
No. "no one shall snatch them out of My hand"
6.) Can some one greater than the Father snatch them out of the Father's hand? No.
"My Father, who has given them, to Me, is GREATER THAN ALL, and no one can snatch them out of My Father's hand."
7.) But what if Rajk999 says that this is teaching disobedience to the commands of Jesus ?
See #1. through # 6.
@sonship saidMany Christians will be destroyed according to Paul. Christianity has become a cesspool of greed, sexual immorality and false doctrines. You are a prime example.
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No Christian will perish forever.
Many Christians will be disciplined.
No Sheep will be destroyed according to Christ in John 10. Jesus defined who the sheep were and you do not qualify. Plus you deny Christ and you are ashamed of his gospel.
Some atheists hear Christ and listen and some even obcy. You only profess to know Christ with your mouth but your heart is far from Christ.
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@Rajk999
Then Jesus has lied by teaching that no one can snatch the believer out of His hand or out of His Father's hand?
And Jesus has LIED when He says "And I give to them eternal life, and they shall BY NO MEANS PERISH FOREVER, and no one shall snatch them out of My hand."
The Son of God is LYING here Rajk999 ?
Yes or No ?
Your next post can contain only one word. Yes or No to answer this.
Don't show everyone now that you are a coward.
@sonship saidFool. Can you not read? Jesus is saying that nobody can snatch HIS SHEEP out of his hand. SHEEP. Jesus did not say believer.
@Rajk999
Then Jesus has lied by teaching that no one can snatch the believer out of His hand or out of His Father's hand?
And Jesus has LIED when He says "And I give to them eternal life, and they shall BY NO MEANS PERISH FOREVER, and no one shall snatch them out of My hand."
The Son of God is LYING here Rajk999 ?
Yes or No ?
Y ...[text shortened]... one word. Yes or No to answer this.
Don't show everyone now that you are a coward.
My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. (John 10:27-28 KJV)
The liar is you. You are not a sheep. You are the girlfriend of the Devil and a follower of Witness Lee.
Sheep of Christ hear CHRIST and follow CHRIST.
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@sonship saidOf course, Witness Lee famously said Christians were in an organization of Satan...
This is better than being a host to the parasite Satan. This one is enemy to God and enemy to man who he HATES.
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You non-wanters of the Spirit of Christ already have someone being expressed in you.
" . . . the ruler of the authority of the air, . . . the spirit which is now operating in the sons of disobedience;" (Eph.2:2)
You already have a evil force constituting you to be "children of wrath" by nature.
You non-wanters of the Holy Spirit must realize that you already are under the usurping parasitic control of "the ruler" the "god of this world" the Devil.
THIS IS A COUNTERFEIT.
THIS IS SATAN RUNNING AHEAD OF GOD WITH A CORRUPT COUNTERFEIT.