To Those Who Don't Want Jesus

@avalanchethecat

I don't think you or I could have written a book as profound as Genesis.

Let's start here.
The dichotomy facing man was not good or evil.
Good and evil were on the same tree.
It was "the tree of the knowledge of good and evil"

Now my opinion is that right out the gate, this matter of "the knowledge of good and evil" being on one side of the choice before man to life is too wise.

I would wager that any human being, even a modern philosopher or psychologist would have written a myth in which man was before two trees.

a tree of good
and a tree of evil.

Like the Greek myth of Pandora's box having all the evils come out of it.
That is not Genesis. Man was created neutral between to ultimate sources of his existence:

The tree of life
The tree of the knowledge of good and evil.

I have contemplated this for fifty years. In my opinion, only God Himself could have had the wisdom to show us that kind of dichotomy of ultimate choices before man.

Why is LIFE put in opposition to the KNOWLEDGE of Good and Evil ?

Why do you think the story is written that way?

@sonship said
@avalanchethecat

I don't think you or I could have written a book as profound as Genesis.

Let's start here.
The dichotomy facing man was not good or evil.
Good and evil were on the same tree.
It was "the tree of the knowledge of good and evil"

Now my opinion is that right out the gate, this matter of "the knowledge of good and evil" being on one ...[text shortened]... position to the KNOWLEDGE of Good and Evil ?

Why do you think the story is written that way?

@avalanchethecat

Your argument is baseless. You're not comparing science to god, you're comparing science to some stories written by men who claim to have been directed or influenced by god. How is this not obvious to you?

@sonship said
@avalanchethecat

Your argument is baseless. You're not comparing science to god, you're comparing science to some stories written by men who claim to have been directed or influenced by god. How is this not obvious to you?

Excuse me.
Why cannot God communicate with man with human words ?

Why cannot God communicate with us in terms that the most can ...[text shortened]... and pre-scientific fairy story? Maybe not.
Let's read on see what else this book the Bible says.

@avalanchethecat

Oh I entirely disagree. It's a good story, I'll give you that, but I expect that's why it's survived all these years. I've read better though.

@avalanchethecat

Let me ask you.
You say Jesus could not be God speaking to us.

Besides the words from Jesus what other person's speaking do you suspect MORE likely represent the heart and authority of God being conveyed to our race?

Like - "Jesus Christ is ok. But God was more likely to be speaking through ______ ?

Socrates?
Darwin?
Stephen Hawking?

Who would you suggests is more likely an utterer of the mind of God?

@sonship said
@avalanchethecat

Oh I entirely disagree. It's a good story, I'll give you that, but I expect that's why it's survived all these years. I've read better though.

Okay. What is the "better" creation account you read ?
Don't dodge me now.

Give me a name.
Please no "But I have, you see, this other problem over here."

Name your better source for the creation of human life in the universe.

@sonship said
@avalanchethecat

Let me ask you.
You say Jesus could not be God speaking to us.

Besides the words from Jesus what other person's speaking do you suspect MORE likely represent the heart and authority of God being conveyed to our race?

Like - "Jesus Christ is ok. But God was more likely to be speaking through ______ ?

Socrates?
Darwin?
Stephen Hawking?
Who would you suggests is more likely an utterer of the mind of God?

@sonship said
@avalanchethecat

I don't think you or I could have written a book as profound as Genesis.

@avalanchethecat

You have nothing. I can see that.

Being nonchalant and in the dark is possible.

@avalanchethecat

Yes, God is the author of the bible.
And "the Word became flesh".

I can see you have no viable alternatives.
I won't bother you further for any better guidance.

Now, being invaded by a someone is evident not only in Romans.
It is rather strongly evidenced in Genesis.

God told Cain that sin was lurking close to his heart ready to pounce on him much as Paul taught in Romans 7 and Ephesians 2.

When Cain was furious with religious jealousy because God had accepted his brother Abel's offering but rejected his God warned -

"And Jehovah said to Cain, Why are you angry, and why has your countenance fallen? If you do well, will not your countenance be lifted up? And if you do not well, sin is crouching at the door; and his desire is for you, but you must rule over him." (Gen. 4:7)

This is amazing. So many centuries before Paul wrote of sin deceiving, killing, taking opportunity, and acting like a personified force in man Moses records God's words. Sin in Cain the first murder was crouching at the door.

Surely God meant crouching at the door of his heart.
Something entered into man's being upon the eating of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. This something was intentionally crouching at the door of the psychological heart of sinners seeking to pull them down into pure evil.

Spoiler alert - "the knowledge of good and evil" became to Adam only the knowledge. It did not mean he would have the power of life to resist evil or perform always the good that he knew.

@sonship said
@avalanchethecat

Yes, God is the author of the bible.
And "the Word became flesh".

I can see you have no viable alternatives.
I won't bother you further for any better guidance.

@avalanchethecat

I gave you ample chance to show how your guidance is better on the big questions of life. You have nothing apparently but rocking chair scoffs at others who have guidance.

Unless I haven't yet seen some guiding wisdom posted on these questions nothing from you seems more approvable then the Bible.

I'll check again latter.

@sonship said
@avalanchethecat

I gave you ample chance to show how your guidance is better on the big questions of life. You have nothing apparently but rocking chair scoffs at others who have guidance.

Unless I haven't yet seen some guiding wisdom posted on these questions nothing from you seems more approvable then the Bible.

I'll check again latter.