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22 Apr 14
Originally posted by RJHindsDon't know why your asking me.
It appears to me that God did not create darkness, but it was already there from the beginning.
However, how is this to be interpreted?
[b]I form the light and create darkness,
I make peace and create calamity;
I, the Lord, do all these things.
(Isaiah 45:7 NKJV)[/b]
I'm an atheist and don't care what it says in the bible.
22 Apr 14
Originally posted by SuzianneHis words are not flawed. Take into consideration a son/daughter in a drug cartel. The father a high ranking member. I guarenty you, his children will worship him as daddy until they form reason of their own. Some children will join the family business, and others may see the truth.
Your theory is flawed.
That's not what God is about.
Knowing how to approach a none believer is not as easy as some think. People have questions, and they have the right to hear a serious answer.
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22 Apr 14
Originally posted by PudgenikOk, I have a question for you.
I have a question for you. As an atheist, why do you take the time to talk on a spirituality forum?
Why does my being an atheist have anything to do with why I may or may-not want to
spend time discussing important issues on this forum?
22 Apr 14
Originally posted by PudgenikThread 157451
I have a question for you. As an atheist, why do you take the time to talk on a spirituality forum?
22 Apr 14
Originally posted by googlefudgeI was just curious. I just find it interesting.
Ok, I have a question for you.
Why does my being an atheist have anything to do with why I may or may-not want to
spend time discussing important issues on this forum?
Your being an "atheist" in itself has nothing to do with it. But in your mindset, i was curious. Obviously you are not "into" god. But what of spirituality of another nature? There are other concepts than what most argue about on here. (i.e. Jesus, God, J.W. and the rest)
22 Apr 14
Originally posted by SwissGambitI love talking concepts, i'm all ears. The problem here is many are stuck. And this is why people like me get tossed into that thread 'favorite crazies'. Nearly none of the Christians, J. W.'s and the rest crave to go deeper into anything of God. "I follow the bible" , i'm so sick of hearing that here.
Thread 157451
No you don't!!!
You do not follow the bible. Only on the surface. But you guys don't go deeper in. To be honest, not even do you guys follow the easy stuff.
It doesn't matter what church you go to, but tithing is more important than hearing the gospel. Don't believe me! Where in the service do the baskets get passed out, before the gospel or after.
If it is before the gospel is preached, then to me you are making the issue of money first before God. Before hearing the Word of God.
If it is after, then Good for you.
What else, OH Yes, one of my favorites. There are no excuses for this either. Jesus, in breaking the bread. "Do this in remembrance of me" .
I go to a lot of churches. The rarity of this action is astounding.
One would think, if Jesus asked His followers to do something, they would do it. What is wrong guys, does it make you "too catholic" to follow Christ's teachings.
I could go on. But what is the piont.
22 Apr 14
Originally posted by Pudgenik
I love talking concepts, i'm all ears. The problem here is many are stuck. And this is why people like me get tossed into that thread 'favorite crazies'. Nearly none of the Christians, J. W.'s and the rest crave to go deeper into anything of God. "I follow the bible" , i'm so sick of hearing that here.
No you don't!!!
You do not follow the bible. Onl ...[text shortened]... t make you "too catholic" to follow Christ's teachings.
I could go on. But what is the piont.
I could go on. But what is the piont.
Please do, I would like to hear more.
23 Apr 14
Originally posted by PudgenikI think you should explore some of these topics. I, for one, get bored with all the JW bashing, and the eternal argument over whether faith or works actually save a person.
I love talking concepts, i'm all ears. The problem here is many are stuck. And this is why people like me get tossed into that thread 'favorite crazies'. Nearly none of the Christians, J. W.'s and the rest crave to go deeper into anything of God. "I follow the bible" , i'm so sick of hearing that here.
No you don't!!!
You do not follow the bible. Onl ...[text shortened]... t make you "too catholic" to follow Christ's teachings.
I could go on. But what is the piont.
For one, the original church was just people meeting in one another's homes. Maybe that has been lost in the modern obsession with ornate buildings?! Maybe there should not be a giant building at all. Where Would Jesus Have Church?
23 Apr 14
Originally posted by googlefudgeDoes the square root of -1 exist?
?
If I define the parameters of a non-existent hypothetical universe am I bonkers
for declaring that this non-existent hypothetical universe doesn't exist?
I would say to define something gives it existence ... if only as an idea.
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Originally posted by wolfgang59Well it obviously exists "as an idea".
Does the square root of -1 exist?
I would say to define something gives it existence ... if only as an idea.
However I would contest that when someone says that something 'exists' they
mean that it has an existence in and of itself.
Ideas 'exist' in that ideas are physical configurations of neurons, or are encoded
in the physical structures of books or hard-drives ect.
But when we say something exists we mean that the thing we are conceptualising
actually manifests in reality. That there is some thing, or some effect that you could
go out and measure in the world.
Ideas in general have an existence in that they are patterns of suitably enabled matter
and energy.
But you are doing damage to the English language if you say that anything exists if someone
has an idea about it.
That doesn't even rule out logical inconsistencies because I can imagine a logical impossibility
quite easily. Obviously not coherently, but by your terms the physical structure of my neurons
would exist...
So no. -1^(1/2) does not 'exist' in and of itself. It's an idea, a concept, not an existent thing.