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Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
"Summary: His Grace/our gratitude. Sans Dieu Rien.

July 2007-14"

Struggled with both Spanish and French in high school but do remember a few words and sentences.
The above is from my site profile: "Without God Nothing."
I knew I'd seen it somewhere. I'm just yanking your chain a little 😉

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Originally posted by divegeester
I knew I'd seen it somewhere. I'm just yanking your chain a little 😉
Maybe the avatar of the old grumpy man will make a cameo to have a look at what's going on in divegeesterville.

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Originally posted by whodey
Does darkness exist? Nope, darkness is simply a term that describes an absence of light.
To say something does not exist and then define it is quite bonkers!

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Originally posted by josephw
That day is coming!
He should get on with it.
btw: if the day is close can you find time to answer my question?

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Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
Sans Dieu Rien.

The family motto of the Petre family - the local gentry to where I lived in UK.

http://www.brentwood.gov.uk/index.php?cid=385


We still suffer under the yoke of Norman oppression! 😉

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Originally posted by wolfgang59
To say something does not exist and then define it is quite bonkers!
Are you saying that darkness exists?

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Originally posted by SwissGambit
Create only heaven, where no one sins, yet everyone has free will, according to your own theology. 😏
....

*chirp* *chirp*

🙂

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Originally posted by whodey
Are you saying that darkness exists?
I am saying that to declare the non-existence of something
and then offer up a definition of it is completely illogical.

|Buut in answer to your question; darkness does exist - it is -
as you say - a lack of light.

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Originally posted by wolfgang59
The family motto of the Petre family - the local gentry to where I lived in UK.

http://www.brentwood.gov.uk/index.php?cid=385


We still suffer under the yoke of Norman oppression! 😉
.... lived there during your early years or as an adult?

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Originally posted by wolfgang59
I am saying that to declare the non-existence of something
and then offer up a definition of it is completely illogical.

|Buut in answer to your question; darkness does exist - it is -
as you say - a lack of light.
Darkness does not exist. If it does, how is it measured? What substance does it have? It has no substance.

Darkness exists only in the context of a description of a lack of light. Without light, darkness would not be in our vocabulary.

Coldness is another example. Coldness cannot be measured, only heat can be measured. It's all science man, look into it.

Likewise, sin does not exist except in the context to describe a lack of God's love.

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Originally posted by wolfgang59
I am saying that to declare the non-existence of something
and then offer up a definition of it is completely illogical.

|Buut in answer to your question; darkness does exist - it is -
as you say - a lack of light.
Like saying God does not exist - illogical and bonkers.

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Originally posted by whodey
Darkness does not exist. If it does, how is it measured? What substance does it have? It has no substance.
Being measurable and having substance are not prerequisites for existence.

Do you believe love exists?

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Originally posted by wolfgang59
Being measurable and having substance are not prerequisites for existence.

Do you believe love exists?
Um, actually being detectable and having properties of some kind that could at
least in theory be measured IS I think a prerequisite of existence.

Or at least of being able to claim something exists.

In as much that love is an emotion represented by certain brain states it is detectable
and measurable both subjectively and objectively.


I would say that if you allow for an entities existence and non-existence to have identical
properties you have rendered the word exist meaningless.

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Originally posted by wolfgang59
I am saying that to declare the non-existence of something
and then offer up a definition of it is completely illogical.

|Buut in answer to your question; darkness does exist - it is -
as you say - a lack of light.
Absent the discovery of negative light [darkness] particles... I'm going to have
to disagree.

Darkness as a physical phenomena doesn't exist.

Light exists, darkness is simply light's absence, and doesn't have a existence
in and of itself.

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Originally posted by googlefudge
Absent the discovery of negative light [darkness] particles... I'm going to have
to disagree.

Darkness as a physical phenomena doesn't exist.

Light exists, darkness is simply light's absence, and doesn't have a existence
in and of itself.
It appears to me that God did not create darkness, but it was already there from the beginning.

However, how is this to be interpreted?

I form the light and create darkness,
I make peace and create calamity;
I, the Lord, do all these things.


(Isaiah 45:7 NKJV)

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