@fmf saidThat’s why he prayed to his father to not go through it beforehand if possible.
You aren't explaining what he sacrificed. He did something, I get that. But he didn't lose anything. He was God before. He was God during it. And he was still God afterwards. In such circumstances, a few hours of physical pain cannot be described as sacrifice. You aren't answering the question.
Wonder if it went like - nope little buddy I’m going to dump all my wrath on you and you will be come sin. Your not going to be the same past, present or future, and you will no longer be holy. I doubt it, I would imagine he got heavenly God loving advice and understanding from the perfect father.
@moonbus saidIf there were two judges dealing out justice and one was by the book no mercy, no one would ever receive mercy no circumstances would be lessen any verdict. The other judge only showed mercy only forgiveness, is that justice? God through the cross deals out both perfect justice and mercy to those who put their faith in Christ.
So why didn't God just forgive Adam? After all, he's the one who sinned. Why all the rigmarole with banishment from the Garden and the rest of the human race and a flood and an incarnation and a resurrection?? God could have simply forgiven Adam and let him stay on in paradise. A father doesn't banish his child from the family home just because the child disobey ...[text shortened]... iven "authority to destroy Satan" you say. But who put a snake in the Garden in the first place, eh?
God can not just forgive sins without dealing with the His righteousness, goodness, holiness also being perfectly satisfied.
@fmf saidSome rooks and a pawns, mainly.
@moonbus raised this issue recently.
If Jesus ~ believed to be a divine being who has always existed and always will exist ~ supposedly went back to being God again after being executed by the Romans ~ and was never not-God during his years of being God incarnate on Earth ~ what exactly did he sacrifice?
He tried to sacrifice his queen, but he had no control over her.
He would have sacced a bishop, but they hadn't been invented yet.
Of course, he ended up getting forked and skewered anyway.