What did Jesus sacrifice?

Yes I know you don’t believe so you have nothing but negative too offer.😉.

@divegeester said
Is burning people alive for not believing in him just?

Because this is what some Muslims do?

@kellyjay said
It is for the sins people are already condemned before God, the forgiveness that
God has set up is believing, without God's grace you are on your own.

@divegeester said
Thanks for the dodging “faith speak”.

Some Muslims people alive for not believing in their God, your version of God is even worse… burning them alive for eternity.

@moonbus said
You, Muslims, and Jews all believe in the same God.

@mike69 said
To know that we would have to be much closer to God than we can get now I expect😉? My Pov and feeling is that as the perfect Father what would it be like to have had to watch his Son agree and go through all and allow it.

What was it like to make all the necessary decisions before hand and possibly hope???

Then as the perfect father in his attributes of Love, Faith, Hop ...[text shortened]... all watching in horror and love.

Do you think he wept as he watched, it cost him and us plenty.

@fmf said
I understand what you have said here but I don't think you are tackling the question.

@kellyjay said
As you don't grasp the answer, you think giving up eternal righteousness, holiness,
and being separated from the fellowship of God the Father for however long it took
and being punished for all the sins we have ever done a little thing. It seems to me
from your perspective becoming sin is nothing, which I suppose should be
understandable since you have little to no regar ...[text shortened]...
having guilt and shame that you concern yourself with, you must not think you
need to be forgiven.

@kellyjay said
As you don't grasp the answer, you think giving up eternal righteousness, holiness,
and being separated from the fellowship of God the Father for however long it took
and being punished for all the sins we have ever done a little thing. It seems to me
from your perspective becoming sin is nothing, which I suppose should be
understandable since you have little to no regar ...[text shortened]...
having guilt and shame that you concern yourself with, you must not think you
need to be forgiven.

@kellyjay said
since the righteousness
of God is meaningless to you, that fact that for one so perfect to become like us by
taking on all of our guilt and shame, no big deal, as you don't see your own life
having guilt and shame that you concern yourself with, you must not think you
need to be forgiven.

@fmf said
all of our guilt and shame

Speak for yourself, KellyJay. If you feel "guilt and shame" about your life, then that is a matter for you.

@kellyjay said
I am speaking for myself as you are.

@fmf said
If you feel "guilt and shame" about yourself, so be it.

@kellyjay said
If you feel none, you speak for yourself.

The thing about evil is it takes what is good and turns it into evil, and God is the
one who takes us who are evil and turns us into God's righteousness. The more
grace and goodness God shows us, the greater the evil we do. God gives us a
means of grace to be redeemed by Him, and people say God is evil because God
has given us a way to be redeemed by Him. I'm not surprised at all you are
good in your own eyes.

@fmf said
@moonbus raised this issue recently.

If Jesus ~ believed to be a divine being who has always existed and always will exist ~ supposedly went back to being God again after being executed by the Romans ~ and was never not-God during his years of being God incarnate on Earth ~ what exactly did he sacrifice?