What does Jesus want from us?

Originally posted by chaney3
I really can't blame you for your post. Your opinion may rub others the wrong way, but not me.

What does to "blame" me for my post mean? I take full responsibility for it. What does it mean to say someone might "blame" me for what is clearly my post? Who else might they "blame"?

Originally posted by chaney3
I really can't blame you for your post. Your opinion may rub others the wrong way, but not me. How are Christians supposed to spread the 'good news' of the Gospels when it is unclear who exactly Jesus was/is and who He is not, and the exact meaning of His words? Every Christian on this forum thinks they have the answer to the riddle, but another Christian ...[text shortened]... is no real unity at all, in my opinion, regarding the entirety of Christianity and its message.

Im pretty sure that you know what Jesus meant by, good works, keeping away from worldly things and a resisting sin. When you face judgment you will have no excuse.

Originally posted by FMF
What does to "blame" me for my post mean? I take full responsibility for it. What does it mean to say someone might "blame" me for what is clearly my post? Who else might they "blame"?

Really? That's your response to the entirety of my post? To cherry pick one word and focus on that word, and ignore everything else?

It meant this: I don't blame you for your post, which could also mean that I understand why you posted what you did.

There was no ill intent to argue about anything else, or no secret underlying message.

Originally posted by chaney3
I really can't blame you for your post. Your opinion may rub others the wrong way, but not me. How are Christians supposed to spread the 'good news' of the Gospels when it is unclear who exactly Jesus was/is and who He is not, and the exact meaning of His words? Every Christian on this forum thinks they have the answer to the riddle, but another Christian ...[text shortened]... is no real unity at all, in my opinion, regarding the entirety of Christianity and its message.

If you are truly seeking God, you will find him. All the other noise will continue, but you will know if God reveals himself to you or not. You will know what is true and what is not.
All the other opinions will not matter.

Prov 2:1-9
My son, if you receive my words,
And treasure my commands within you,
2 So that you incline your ear to wisdom,
And apply your heart to understanding;
3 Yes, if you cry out for discernment,
And lift up your voice for understanding,
4 If you seek her as silver,
And search for her as for hidden treasures;
5 Then you will understand the fear of the Lord,
And find the knowledge of God.
6 For the Lord gives wisdom;
From His mouth come knowledge and understanding;
7 He stores up sound wisdom for the upright;
He is a shield to those who walk uprightly;
8 He guards the paths of justice,
And preserves the way of His saints.
9 Then you will understand righteousness and justice,
Equity and every good path.
NKJV

Take note of the ifs in these verses.

Originally posted by chaney3
Really? That's your response to the entirety of my post? To cherry pick one word and focus on that word, and ignore everything else?

I made no comment on the rest of your post because I thought it was a string of pointless beers-poo-in-the-woods type statements.

But now you have drawn a comment about it from me, after all, suppose.

Originally posted by FMF
I made no comment on the rest of your post because I thought it was a string of pointless beers-poo-in-the-woods type statements.

But now you have drawn a comment about it from me, after all, suppose.

I know that you are an EX-Christian, but your tone is that of an angry EX-Christian. Why is that? It is understandable if one chooses not to be a Christian anymore, but you seem to display an anger about it all, as if you were somehow deceived in your past and cannot wait to share your EX-Christian pain with anyone who will listen.

This tone of anger is clearly evident in your 3rd post in the Grampy thread about 'personal views of death'.

Originally posted by checkbaiter
If you are truly seeking God, you will find him. All the other noise will continue, but you will know if God reveals himself to you or not. You will know what is true and what is not.
All the other opinions will not matter.

Prov 2:1-9
My son, if you receive my words,
And treasure my commands within you,
2 So that you incline your ear to wis ...[text shortened]... ice,
Equity and every good path.
NKJV

Take note of the [b]ifs in these verses.[/b]

Here are some IFs and THENs :

Joh_8:31 Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed;

If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.
(John 15:10 KJV)

Joh_14:23 .. If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

Originally posted by chaney3
I know that you are an EX-Christian, but your tone is that of an angry EX-Christian. Why is that? It is understandable if one chooses not to be a Christian anymore, but you seem to display an anger about it all, as if you were somehow deceived in your past and cannot wait to share your EX-Christian pain with anyone who will listen.

This tone of anger is clearly evident in your 3rd post in the Grampy thread about 'personal views of death'.

Emotion is very hard to read over the internet, but I think you have mistaken exasperation for anger. (There aren't many posters who show genuine anger here).

Originally posted by Ghost of a Duke
Emotion is very hard to read over the internet, but I think you have mistaken exasperation for anger. (There aren't many posters who show genuine anger here).

Fine...."intense irritation and extreme annoyance" will suffice in place of anger.

But my point was that a former Christian harboring these emotions toward present Christianity is still questionable. Why not just abandon his faith in a neutral manner? Why the need to display such emotions towards others?

There are many atheists on this forum who do not display such 'intense irritation' towards another's beliefs.

Originally posted by chaney3
Fine...."intense irritation and extreme annoyance" will suffice in place of anger.

But my point was that a former Christian harboring these emotions toward present Christianity is still questionable. Why not just abandon his faith in a neutral manner? Why the need to display such emotions towards others?

There are many atheists on this forum who do not display such 'intense irritation' towards another's beliefs.

I think you have mistaken intense irritation and extreme annoyance for nonchalant vexation and marginal discombobulation.

Originally posted by Ghost of a Duke
I think you have mistaken intense irritation and extreme annoyance for nonchalant vexation and marginal discombobulation.

Lol, lol. If we keep on like this, he will soon be a Christian again.

Originally posted by Rajk999
Here are some IFs and THENs :

Joh_8:31 Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed;

If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.
(John 15:10 KJV)

Joh_14:23 .. If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love;

You would do well to meditate on this yourself, because most here find you lacking.

Originally posted by checkbaiter
[b]If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love;

You would do well to meditate on this yourself, because most here find you lacking.[/b]

Therein lies your problem.

You live to please the "most here" of this world.
"Most here" is the reason for false doctrines.
"Most here" know nothing of me.

I live to please Christ, not "most here".
Hope you doing the same.

Originally posted by chaney3
I know that you are an EX-Christian, but your tone is that of an angry EX-Christian. Why is that? It is understandable if one chooses not to be a Christian anymore, but you seem to display an anger about it all, as if you were somehow deceived in your past and cannot wait to share your EX-Christian pain with anyone who will listen.

I'm not angry at all. And I am not feeling "pain".

Originally posted by chaney3
This tone of anger is clearly evident in your 3rd post in the Grampy thread about 'personal views of death'.

I just had a look. It's level headed. Clear. Brief and to the point. It expresses disapproval of something. There is no "tone of anger".