02 Jan 12
Originally posted by RJHindsA very good answer. Thank you.
We both have the Holy Bible to gain information about Christ if we
will read it. I also have the Holy Spirit to teach me. However, He
is also available to you, if you will listen. So, I have no source of
information that you can not also have. Perhaps, you are making
reference to some special commentary on the life of Jesus, but
they are available t ...[text shortened]... e that wishes to have them. So I do
not have any idea what source I have that you don't have.
I was just aiming towards the fact that we don't know very much about Jesus Christ. Do we even know his true name?
02 Jan 12
Originally posted by SuzianneEnough? So little information of a person Christians call the son of God and worship as he would be a god himself, the very same man the Muslims call the most prominent Prophet of the whole world and in the entire history of man, the one the Jews denies altogether, and you call it enough? Enough? And his proper name is not even known. Doesn't it take more than that?
We know enough.
02 Jan 12
Originally posted by josephwIt's about what you know about Jesus? Then what do you know? Skip the hearsay, just give me the facts.
Speak for yourself fab. It's not about quantity anyway. It's about [b]knowing Him to begin with. It's about what one knows about Jesus, and not how much.[/b]
First - what was his real name?
02 Jan 12
Originally posted by galveston75My posts are too long. And everyone wants a short little chat room reply which only takes two seconds to glance at and read.
John 4:23-24
New Living Translation (NLT)
23 But the time is coming—indeed it’s here now—when true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and in truth. The Father is looking for those who will worship him that way. 24 For God is Spirit, so those who worship him must worship in spirit and in truth.
What is the "truth" the Bible speaks of?
So the subject is interesting. But who wants to read any in depth discussion ?
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02 Jan 12
Originally posted by galveston75There are theories of truth. The semantic theory, the correspondence theory, etc. I'd ask the Bible believers to answer what theory of truth applies to the Bible.
John 4:23-24
New Living Translation (NLT)
23 But the time is coming—indeed it’s here now—when true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and in truth. The Father is looking for those who will worship him that way. 24 For God is Spirit, so those who worship him must worship in spirit and in truth.
What is the "truth" the Bible speaks of?
Saying "whatever is in the Bible" doesn't seem to work, as the arguments have sometimes involved fire and at least, heated remarks on this forum. Such a theory equates to "whatever I (and sometimes, my army) believe the Bible says."
Three theories are at:
http://instruct.westvalley.edu/lafave/Truth_theories.html
These and others are found at:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truth
02 Jan 12
Originally posted by FabianFnasI believe we do. It is exactly the same name as the one we call "Joshua"
A very good answer. Thank you.
I was just aiming towards the fact that we don't know very much about Jesus Christ. Do we even know his true name?
in the Old Testament of the Holy Bible. All indicators point to "Yahshua"
as being His Hebrew or Jewish name.
02 Jan 12
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Originally posted by FabianFnasYahshua (Jesus) was known by the name "the Christ" by all secular
It's about what you know about Jesus? Then what do you know? Skip the hearsay, just give me the facts.
First - what was his real name?
historical accounts outside the writings compiled to make the NT.
Even though the Jewish religious leaders refused to accept Him as
their promised King and Messiah (Christ) many of the common
Israelites, including Jewish people, did. They became known in
Greek as the Christians. Even the Roman governor, over Jerusalem
who allowed Jesus to be crucified, recognized Him as King of the Jews
by having that inscription placed above His head on the cross. So
that should give you some clue as to who He was believed to be.
02 Jan 12
Originally posted by RJHindsYahshua, you say? They had modern letters at that time? I cannot believe it.
Yahshua (Jesus) was known by the name "the Christ" by all secular
historical accounts outside the writings compiled to make the NT.
Even though the Jewish religious leaders refused to accept Him as
their promised King and Messiah (Christ) many of the common
Israelites, including Jewish people, did. They became known in
Greek as the Christians. Even th ...[text shortened]... ve His head on the cross. So
that should give you some clue as to who He was believed to be.
Then you say that he was known by the name "the Christ" a thousand before the language of English was established a whole continent away.
"Even the Roman governor recognized Him as King of the Jews" you say. Are you really sure it was not without irony? I know a worksman at a pig farm who was called "King of the Pigs", because he smelled like them. I think that was irony too.
If your source is the gospels, then you should know that the information written there was written long time after, of people not being there at the time, written by a purpose of establish the new religion, just hearsay, nothing more.