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Originally posted by @divegeesterI don't see your reply as too carefully laid out. I think you could take more time. Are you flipping off text messages while driving?
Revelation appears to say that Jesus will be “witnessing” the suffering.
Scatter shot indicates to me more of a kind of panic than a real well thought out reply.
I answered with a few particular points I raised about your initial questions. Before you scatter shoot some more cynical buckshot, take some time and carefully reply.
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If course he won’t be because your interpretation of the “perfect justice” of buttoning billions and billions of people alive for eternity, is an abhorrent nonsense.
I think you have seen me respond to this line before, to which I do not recall you EVER giving me an answer.
Once again:
If when you realize that Revelation 20:15 was true and those whose names were not recorded in the book of life are in the lake of fire, will you assume that Satan's accusations of God's unrighteousness were true?
Will you prefer to be with Satan and all his followers then, at least with the speaker of truth? Will you rather have your lot with the Devil and his followers than with God and Jesus Christ Who assigned them their fate ?
If eternal punishment turns out to be true, will you prefer to be with Satan wherever he is rather than with the unjust, unloving, God?
Will you decide that Satan's kingdom was more right and God's kingdom is NOT?
27 May 18
Originally posted by @romans1009No, you are a liar. Am ashamed of you. No one ever did what you say here.
God doesn’t decide who goes to hell either. Individual people decide that for themselves.
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Originally posted by @divegeesteri don't know.
What will fuel the eternal fires of your vision of hell sonship?
Neither do I know how out of nothing God created the heavens and the earth in the beginning (Genesis 1:1).
Are you bitter because you think a loved one has perished?
You do not have to answer this publically.
I wonder sometimes.
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27 May 18
Originally posted by @apathistRun with that apathist.
If God would show up we could answer some questions. But it never does. So what we are dealing with is mental illness.
happy face here
God never showed up on earth.
God never manifested God in human history but left us forever wondering about Him.
Run with that apathist.
See how it works out for you.
27 May 18
Originally posted by @sonshipGet used to scar tissue.
Run with that apathist.
God never showed up on earth.
God never manifested God in human history but left us forever wondering about Him.
Run with that apathist.
See how it works out for you.
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27 May 18
Originally posted by @apathistThat sounds a little like a vaguely relevant remark. Is it?
Get used to scar tissue.
Scar tissue??
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Apathist, you run with your assumptions
Ie. God never manifested Himself.
God never revealed Himself or anything about Himself.
He had centuries to do so but He never did.
You put your trust in that and see how it works.
Me?, I've come to consider Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John for starters.
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27 May 18
Originally posted by @sonshipMeanwhile, you can contend yourself with the notion that God 'has' made himself known, and despite being all-powerful and perfectly loving allows innocent children to suffer and perish through no fault of their own.
Apathist, you run with your assumptions
Ie. God never manifested Himself.
God never revealed Himself or anything about Himself.
He had centuries to do so but He never did.
You put your trust in that and see how it works.
Me?, I've come to consider [b]Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John for starters.[/b]
27 May 18
Originally posted by @sonshipDo you think some sort of secret psychological weakness or damage may explain why people disagree with you or do not share your perspectives?
Are you bitter because you think a loved one has perished?
You do not have to answer this publically.
I wonder sometimes.
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Originally posted by @divegeesterSince it is souls being destroyed I can't make myself believe it is a literal, physical fire which best I can tell, could not cause a soul any pain or destruction.
Fuel for the literal eternal fires of hell...
So far we have:
“A very large can of butane”, “a Self sustaining lake of fire”, “God’s wrath”, Any nearby “star” and a “circumvention of the laws of physics” as possible solitons.
Edit: this is supposedly a literal eternal lake of fire, which is supervised by the loving Jesus with his “mercy which endured forever”...
I imagine a biologist targeting and removing a cancer from a body. Removing the cancerous cells and tossing the petri dishes into an incinerator for safety reasons. In context, the body would be the human body.
27 May 18
Originally posted by @sonshipYou care about this subject. So you have met gnosticism, right? The bible we are fed is only part of the story.
Apathist, you run with your assumptions
Ie. God never manifested Himself.
God never revealed Himself or anything about Himself.
He had centuries to do so but He never did.
You put your trust in that and see how it works.
Me?, I've come to consider Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John for starters.
Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-dukeBy that I guess you mean completely absent except for killing children.
...all-powerful and perfectly loving ...