What's the latest on the 144,000?

Originally posted by FMF
Have you watched the video, robbie?

nope, have you.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
nope, have you.

Yes. So you're not going to comment on it?

Originally posted by Penguin
No, his gripe is not about the 72 people per year that he says it averages out to over the last 200 years. It is unfortunate that he highlighted that bit.

His gripe is that JW doctrine says that said 144,000 in total people will go to 'JW Heaven' and that there are many more JW's on the planet right now and through the ages there have been even more in to ...[text shortened]... hat you are saying? And also, is this actually the official JW doctrine?

--- Penguin[/b]

I have just watched the video and it is essentially saying that only 144000 since Jesus death are allowed to partake of holy bread & wine (and go to JW heaven) and that essentially, the numbers don't add up.

Watch it, it's only 5 minutes long.

-- Penguin.

Originally posted by FMF
Yes. So you're not going to comment on it?

nope, i have no issue with my beliefs, if you wish to discuss them, they are not found
on video sites but in the pages of the Bible, but i guess its reflective of the type of
spoon-feeding that is threatening to drag the spirituality forum to the depths of a
tabloid newspaper.

Originally posted by Penguin
I have just watched the video and it is essentially saying that only 144000 since Jesus death are allowed to partake of holy bread & wine (and go to JW heaven) and that essentially, the numbers don't add up.

Watch it, it's only 5 minutes long.

-- Penguin.

how do you know they do not add up, in fact, how do you know how many persons
God has selected and in what epoch that selection took place. If you do not know, or
cannot answer, then why are you making an issue of something that is unanswerable.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
nope, i have no issue with my beliefs, if you wish to discuss them, they are not found
on video sites but in the pages of the Bible, but i guess its reflective of the type of
spoon-feeding that is threatening to drag the spirituality forum to the depths of a
tabloid newspaper.

You say you have "no issue with [your] beliefs" and yet you are acting rather oddly here when asked about the "the 144,000" thing.

Originally posted by FMF
You say you have "no issue with [your] beliefs" and yet you are acting rather oddly here when asked about the "the 144,000" thing.

I am not acting oddly at all, i have no issue with it.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
how do you know they do not add up, in fact, how do you know how many persons
God has selected and in what epoch that selection took place. If you do not know, or
cannot answer, then why are you making an issue of something that is unanswerable.

Why don't you just watch the short video and then address the question raised?

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
I am not acting oddly at all, i have no issue with it.

Well if you have "no issue with it" why not discuss the question?

Originally posted by FMF
Well if you have "no issue with it" why not discuss the question?

there is nothing to discuss. what is it you want to know about the 144,000?

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
there is nothing to discuss. what is it you want to know about the 144,000?

I want to know what your reaction is to the questions raised by the video?

Originally posted by FMF
I want to know what your reaction is to the questions raised by the video?

then ask me the question

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
then ask me the question

My question is what is your reaction to the questions raised by the video?

Originally posted by FMF
My question is what your reaction is to the questions raised by the video?

I have no comment to make on a video presentations, my beliefs are not based on
video presentations, but on the Bible, now if you have a serious question about my
beliefs then feel free to ask me, otherwise, stop wasting your own time and mine alike.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
I have no comment to make on a video presentations, my beliefs are not based on
video presentations, but on the Bible, now if you have a serious question about my
beliefs then feel free to ask me, otherwise, stop wasting your own time and mine alike.

Are you not allowed to talk about "the 144,000" or something? You are behaving very oddly.