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Originally posted by robbie carrobieHow come the number of JW's who take the unleven bread and sip wine each year at memorial is going up yet the number who can get to heaven is capped at 144,000?
Just ask the questions FMF.
How come entry was capped in 1935 and then uncapped?
Crude summary i know, but it's a start.
12 Jan 12
Originally posted by robbie carrobieOk fine so then the names of the tribes are just figurative and symbolic of something else. If so then the entire passage is figurative. You are cherry picking what is symbolic and what is literal in a single sentence. That makes your interpretation nonsense.
the scriptures, peter clearly called the gentile christians a chosen race, this coupled
with the fact that Christ told the natural Jews as a whole that the kingdom would be
taken from them and given to another people is incontrovertible proof, that the Israel
of God, is a new creation, made up of persons who are Jews on the inside.
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Originally posted by Proper KnobSigh, shall i repeat this again and again and again until it finally sinks in. We have
How come the number of JW's who take the unleven bread and sip wine each year at memorial is going up yet the number who can get to heaven is capped at 144,000?
How come entry was capped in 1935 and then uncapped?
Crude summary i know, but it's a start.
no way of knowing who have the hope of residing with Christ in the heavens nor of
stating in what epoch those ones would be gathered or in what quantity, neither do
you, nor anyone else. If the numbers are slightly increasing, so what? its
meaningless to draw any conclusions other than to state that there are slightly more
persons professing to have a heavenly hope of residing with the Christ than in
previous epochs of history.
as for being capped, i dont think it was, many of our beliefs, unlike the churches of
Christendom are constantly being revised as new understanding comes to light. If it
was felt that in 1935 or whenever that the majority were somehow sealed and later it
was seen not to be the case, again, so what, its simply meaningless.
12 Jan 12
Originally posted by Rajk999I am cherry picking nothing, i have stated my beliefs and corroborated them with scripture, you need not accept it.
Ok fine so then the names of the tribes are just figurative and symbolic of something else. If so then the entire passage is figurative. You are cherry picking what is symbolic and what is literal in a single sentence. That makes your interpretation nonsense.
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Cracking read.
Although no response from the self proclaimed holders of God's truth was forthcoming (as usual and expected), I think this thread clearly validates Manny's OP with the JW guy evading questions in a similar fashion to robbie carrobie.
I don't blame robbie or Galveston, it's thier organisations long reach of cultic control.
12 Jan 12
Originally posted by divegeesteryawn, if this is the level that your spirituality has taken you to, god knows what you
Cracking read.
Although no response from the self proclaimed holders of God's truth was forthcoming (as usual and expected), I think this thread clearly validates Manny's OP with the JW guy evading questions in a similar fashion to robbie carrobie.
I don't blame robbie or Galveston, it's thier organisations long reach of cultic control.
were like before you were a nominal Christian.
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Originally posted by robbie carrobieThis is nothing to do with personal "spirituality" - nice try btw.
yawn, if this is the level that your spirituality has taken you to, god knows what you
were like before you were a nominal Christian.
This is about your organisation and your (and your colleagues) continued reluctance to answer specific probing questions about it.
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Originally posted by robbie carrobieSo we should all model ourselves after you, who, time and again, belittles his fellow Christians and calls them names and denies them?
yawn, if this is the level that your spirituality has taken you to, god knows what you
were like before you were a nominal Christian.
Not likely. Calling all the Christians here "nominal", who would rather actually follow Christ's teachings than give them lip-service, would seem to show us all what side of the fence you stand on.
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Originally posted by divegeesterwhen i was asked, i answered fully, to my knowledge proper knob was the only person
This is nothing to do with personal "spirituality" - nice try btw.
This is about your organisation and your (and your colleagues) continued reluctance to answer specific probing questions about it.
who asked me anything, your thread was and remains idiotic.
12 Jan 12
Originally posted by Suzianneyes that is correct, either bring your lives into harmony with the model and example of
So we should all model ourselves after you, who, time and again, belittles his fellow Christians and calls them names and denies them?
Not likely. Calling all the Christians here "nominal", who would rather actually follow Christ's teachings than give them lip-service, would seem to show us all what side of the fence you stand on.
Jesus Christ or stop calling yourselves Christians. What teaching of Christ do you have
in mind? lets see if you can walk the walk!
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Originally posted by robbie carrobieSo according to your belief, what happens to observant christians of other kinds, Catholics, Baptists, Pentacostal, Coptics, etc.?
yawn, if this is the level that your spirituality has taken you to, god knows what you
were like before you were a nominal Christian.
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Originally posted by robbie carrobieRe-read the OP. You calling it idiotic says more about you RC and your silly refusal to look at the link or comment on my (or FMF's) legitimate observations regarding your organisation's claims and scriptural interpretations.
when i was asked, i answered fully, to my knowledge proper knob was the only person
who asked me anything, your thread was and remains idiotic.