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What's the latest on the 144,000?

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Originally posted by divegeester
Re-read the OP. You calling it idiotic says more about you RC and your silly refusal to look at the link or comment on my (or FMF's) legitimate observations regarding your organisation's claims and scriptural interpretations.
i will reread nothing it was stupid enough the first time and typical of the kind of dumb
questions you like to ask, questions that have no answer.

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
i will reread nothing it was stupid enough the first time and typical of the kind of dumb
questions you like to ask, questions that have no answer.
Sure.

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
observant christians, what are the observing, do tell.
You know what I mean, what happens to those christians? Surely you are not trying to say they all go to purgatory or hell or whatever?

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
yes that is correct, either bring your lives into harmony with the model and example of
Jesus Christ or stop calling yourselves Christians. What teaching of Christ do you have
in mind? lets see if you can walk the walk!
I've been "walking the walk" for some time now.

I suggest you do the same. We are exhorted to "love one another" and yet you can't bring yourself to actually do that. Perhaps you can stop calling yourself Christian until you start "following the model and example of Jesus Christ". You can't hold any of your Christian brothers in fellowship. Perhaps you need to look at that and ask yourself why that is... instead of taking the weak way out, claiming they are not true Christians, which goes against Christ's teachings. All this claim of "walking the walk" is insufficient when all you're doing is "talking the talk".

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Originally posted by sonhouse
You know what I mean, what happens to those christians? Surely you are not trying to say they all go to purgatory or hell or whatever?
god knows.

RJHinds
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Originally posted by FMF
Does anyone else think robbie is being a little bit odd about this?
No, he is acting exactly the way they are instructed to act. 😏

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Originally posted by Suzianne
All this claim of "walking the walk" is insufficient when all you're doing is "talking the talk".
Or "knocking the knock".

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Originally posted by divegeester
Or "knocking the knock".
oh no, you've been kicked out of every clan there is, a Manchurian candidate if ever there was one!

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Originally posted by Suzianne
I've been "walking the walk" for some time now.

I suggest you do the same. We are exhorted to "love one another" and yet you can't bring yourself to actually do that. Perhaps you can stop calling yourself Christian until you start "following the model and example of Jesus Christ". You can't hold any of your Christian brothers in fellowship. Perhaps y ...[text shortened]... f "walking the walk" is insufficient when all you're doing is "talking the talk".
What seems very curious to me is this continual attack on an entire religion, one that is very close to your own. It seems odd that you would not attack another religion entirely, like Isalm or Rastafarians or something. Is this a personal attack on Robbie or is it a general attack on JW?

RJHinds
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Originally posted by sonhouse
What seems very curious to me is this continual attack on an entire religion, one that is very close to your own. It seems odd that you would not attack another religion entirely, like Isalm or Rastafarians or something. Is this a personal attack on Robbie or is it a general attack on JW?
I think most of us feel love for him and wish he would learn the truth
so he could show the same commitment to Christ as he does for the
the Watchtower's distorted teachings. He could be a great blessing
for the cause of Christ. 😏

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Originally posted by RJHinds
I think most of us feel love for him and wish he would learn the truth
so he could show the same commitment to Christ as he does for the
the Watchtower's distorted teachings. He could be a great blessing
for the cause of Christ. 😏
So you are attacking BOTH Robbie and JW's?

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Originally posted by RJHinds
I think most of us feel love for him and wish he would learn the truth
so he could show the same commitment to Christ as he does for the
the Watchtower's distorted teachings. He could be a great blessing
for the cause of Christ. 😏
What exactly do we teach door to door that is not what Jesus taught?

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Originally posted by sonhouse
So you are attacking BOTH Robbie and JW's?
It only appears to be attacking to the uninformed. It is really an attempt
to show the errors in the teachings of the Watchtower so that maybe the
individual JW will really know Christ and accept truth of the gospel rather
than another gospel preached by the Watchtower Society. I admit that I
do use crude language to tear down in an attempt to eventually build up
as I learned in the military. Maybe that is not the best way, but it is the
only way I know.

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Originally posted by RJHinds
It only appears to be attacking to the uninformed. It is really an attempt
to show the errors in the teachings of the Watchtower so that maybe the
individual JW will really know Christ and accept truth of the gospel rather
than another gospel preached by the Watchtower Society. I admit that I
do use crude language to tear down in an attempt to eventual ...[text shortened]...
as I learned in the military. Maybe that is not the best way, but it is the
only way I know.
Perhaps the lot of you should concentrate on your own lives and let other people live their own without interference. Your god will give you no brownie points for attacking JW's or anyone else. Verbal violence is still violence.

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Concerning the 144,000 Firstfruits in Revelation 14:

God loves the 144,000 simply because He loves them. The thrust of chapter 14 is not that they govern for God or aare administrators for God. Nothing is said in that chapter at all about them governing.

What Firstfruits signify in typology is that they are simply for the Father's enjoyment. He takes pleasure in these 144,000 Firstfruits just because of their maturity .

They have "ripened" early on the farm of God in the same way that the early ripe crop in Canaan was a firstfruits brought into the temple of God. God has sown His life in Christ into millions of people on earth. Towards the second coming of Christ there will be some who have matured, grown, developed in that spiritual life to be early "ripe" ones - "Firstfruits".

Chapter 14 shows that these early ripened ones, mature in the divine life, are for the Father's pure satisfaction for their own sake. They are simply a pleasure to Him aside from any reigning, ruling, or governing.

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