07 Mar 22
@fmf saidThe love for humanity causes our one way out, Jesus Christ; the issue is a good God and people who sin. Now you may feel that the human race is okay as races go, but you have to accept all of the atrocities we have done as acceptable. You may feel that God should be honored to take us as is; you can think whatever you like. God is all about righteousness and justice and love, and through His righteousness, His justice is satisfied in Jesus Christ for us because of His love. Outside of Christ, we are going to die in our sins.
I just did. A whole load of defeatist, impotent disdain for humanity. All rooted in ancient Hebrew mythology.
07 Mar 22
@fmf saidWe are all sinners, and you can look around and see all the things we have done to each other. Now you may think you are not as bad as some, but that some are not the standard that we are compared to, we were made in the image of God; it is God who is our standard, not the best of us. It took but one sin to plunge the whole race into this mess; you think you are spotless? Have you ever cried for justice at some crime? If you ever did, do you realize that your crimes also have to be accounted for against God and man.
I "...have to accept all of the atrocities we have done as acceptable"?
Why do I "have to" do that?
07 Mar 22
@kellyjay saidAn answer to my question would be more interesting. You said I have to accept all of the atrocities humanity has done as acceptable. Once again, why do I "have to" do that?
We are all sinners, and you can look around and see all the things we have done to each other. Now you may think you are not as bad as some, but that some are not the standard that we are compared to, we were made in the image of God; it is God who is our standard, not the best of us. It took but one sin to plunge the whole race into this mess; you think you are spotless? Ha ...[text shortened]... If you ever did, do you realize that your crimes also have to be accounted for against God and man.
07 Mar 22
@fmf saidJustice in the whole of creation is coming; no one gets away with anything for any deed, word spoken, or deed that should have been done and wasn't. Every sin we do will be settled up against both God and man, each one you have done will be dealt with one way or another, through Jesus Christ, or on your own. The consequences for our deeds will be played out in full, as our responsibility for them is laid at our feet.
What "crimes" have I commited, KellyJay?
@kellyjay saidYes, but what "crimes" have I committed, KellyJay? You suggested that I have committed "crimes". Is it a concept of "crime" that you can attach to me without justifying doing so? By which I mean, is it simply rooted in your misanthropic take on your fellow human beings? I have never accused you of committing "crimes".
Justice in the whole of creation is coming; no one gets away with anything for any deed, word spoken, or deed that should have been done and wasn't. Every sin we do will be settled up against both God and man, each one you have done will be dealt with one way or another, through Jesus Christ, or on your own. The consequences for our deeds will be played out in full, as our responsibility for them is laid at our feet.
You also suggested I "have to accept that all of the atrocities we have done as acceptable". I have never suggested you have to "accept all atrocities as acceptable". Do you have any idea of how poisonous the recital of your dogma makes you sound?
07 Mar 22
@fmf saidAgainst God and man, every time you deny the Lord, you are against man any time you have done or said anything against someone, causing them to stumble towards God or in life; in general, those will be dealt with on the day of judgment. You may think you are squicky clean, that will be judged true or not.
Yes, but what "crimes" have I committed, KellyJay? You suggested that I have committed "crimes". Is it a concept of "crime" that you can attach to me without justifying doing so? By which I mean, is it simply rooted in your misanthropic take on your fellow human beings? I have never accused you of committing "crimes".
You also suggested I "have to accept that all of the atroc ...[text shortened]... ies as acceptable". Do you have any idea of how poisonous the recital of your dogma makes you sound?
@kellyjay saidHow are these things "crimes" except in your misanthropic imagination?
Against God and man, every time you deny the Lord, you are against man any time you have done or said anything against someone, causing them to stumble towards God or in life; in general, those will be dealt with on the day of judgment. You may think you are squicky clean, that will be judged true or not.
My lack of belief in the God figure you just so happen to believe in is honest and sincere. It damages no one. It deceives no one. It coerces no one.
Where do get off on calling it a "crime"?
You fall for a religious narrative.
It tells you your fellow human beings are all evil.
It tells you are forgiven, though.
And immortal.
Then you tell people that don't share your beliefs they are criminals because [1] they are not squeaky clean**, and [2] they don't share your beliefs.
**[3] You don't have to be squeaky clean, however.
And, of course, they deserve to be tortured forever.
Gosh. What a ludicrous and thoroughly indecent belief system, morally speaking!
07 Mar 22
@fmf saidYou examine your own life, I am not your judge. You don’t feel guilty for anything, you think that you have never done anything wrong? When we stand in front of Jesus who is the Truth every thing will be revealed. Say what ever you want to me I am not the One who died for your sins.
Yes, but what "crimes" have I committed, KellyJay? You suggested that I have committed "crimes". Is it a concept of "crime" that you can attach to me without justifying doing so? By which I mean, is it simply rooted in your misanthropic take on your fellow human beings? I have never accused you of committing "crimes".
You also suggested I "have to accept that all of the atroc ...[text shortened]... ies as acceptable". Do you have any idea of how poisonous the recital of your dogma makes you sound?