Why is Christianity in the US dying

@fmf said
And all your rather vile misanthropic declarations and your admiration for depraved retribution for people who have different beliefs than you "is just your opinion" too. If it has no coherence, then it has no traction. Is this your "ministry" here? 'It is just your opinion, it is just your opinion, it is just your opinion, it is just your opinion...' but... your opinion is not just your opinion! Bingo! Narcissism + Misanthropy = KellyJayChristianity.

It’s not a matter of differing opinions.

Some people can discern the truth and others can’t.

“In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.”

(2 Corinthians 4:4)

@fmf said
As you say so often with regard to your allegedly "absolute truths", "IF" this, and "IF" that. "IF you're right and "IF" I am wrong. And on the basis of this reasoning, your rote-regurgitating mindmap sees inexplicably stupendous and neverending violence - being visited upon people whose speculations about the "correct answer" are different from yours - as being morally righteous and coherent.

The truth doesn't disagree with other truths; a fact doesn't disappear with new information; it is confirmed. We are looking at life as we live it; what best describes it from beginning to end, you have a theory, someplace you go for information that best describes all of this as it is from beginning to now?

Violence in the here and now as we turn on each other, you think is just every day, the way it is supposed to be? If not, then there is something wrong with us; it isn't an external threat; it is an internal one where we have something wrong. Do you think I'm being slanderous when I say we are broken, or is all of this just normal in your way of thinking?

@kellyjay said
The truth doesn't disagree with other truths; a fact doesn't disappear with new information; it is confirmed.

Referring to your own personal opinions in this way does not add any weight to them as an "argument". Absolutely nothing about your speculation about immortality and eternal torture and truth and facts "is confirmed", no matter how many times you declare it.

@kellyjay said
Violence in the here and now as we turn on each other, you think is just every day, the way it is supposed to be?

And what does this have to do with me being tortured in burning flames for eternity for not, as you put it, being "squeaky clean"?

@kellyjay said
Do you think I'm being slanderous when I say we are broken, or is all of this just normal in your way of thinking?

I think you are being almost clinically jaundiced and misanthropic.

I think your religious dogma helps you cope.

@kellyjay said
What best describes it from beginning to end, you have a theory, someplace you go for information that best describes all of this as it is from beginning to now?

There is no onus on me to conjure up something that competes with or displaces the mythology and supernaturalism that appeal to your imagination and your character.

@kellyjay said
Violence in the here and now as we turn on each other, you think is just every day, the way it is supposed to be?

The "argument" that the fact there is injustice in the world means that there MUST be cosmic justice is about as emotionally subjective as you could possibly get.

@pb1022 said
It’s not a matter of differing opinions.Some people can discern the truth and others can’t.

(2 Corinthians 4:4)

Ah yes, here is the 'My Belief in the Veracity of a 2,000-Year-Old Screed has Supernaturally Transformed my Cognition' "argument".

@fmf said
Ah yes, here is the 'My Belief in the Veracity of a 2,000-Year-Old Screed has Supernaturally Transformed my Cognition' "argument".

Why do you think it has to do with cognition?

You said you were a Christian for, what was it 20 years?

Was that based purely on cognition?

@pb1022 said
Why do you think it has to do with cognition?

You talked about how people not sharing your particular beliefs in supernatural beings and phenomena are not able to "discern the truth". There is no evidence whatsoever that you subscribing to stuff like 2 Corinthians 4:4 has supernaturally transformed your mental capacity to see "truths" that others cannot see.

@fmf said
You talked about how people not sharing your particular beliefs in supernatural beings and phenomena are not able to "discern the truth". There is no evidence whatsoever that you subscribing to stuff like 2 Corinthians 4:4 has supernaturally transformed your mental capacity to see "truths" that others cannot see.

Again, why do you think it has to do with cognition?

Are all of your beliefs based on cognition?

@pb1022 said
You said you were a Christian for, what was it 20 years?

About 25 years.

Looking back now, I realize that Christians do not undergo a supernatural transformation brought on by their faith. They may be inspired, they may be changed in terms of character and attitude, they may be motivated by, and to do, different things, the transformation [if there is one] is not, however, supernatural.

@pb1022 said
You said you were a Christian for, what was it 20 years?

Was that based purely on cognition?

Yes. Everyone's religious belief and lack of religious belief is rooted in their cognition and it is a function of their consciuosness.

@pb1022 said
Are all of your beliefs based on cognition?

Even gut feelings and instincts are perceived and processed and acted upon using the prism of our cognitive functions.

@fmf said
About 25 years.

Looking back now, I realize that Christians do not undergo a supernatural transformation brought on by their faith. They may be inspired, they may be changed in terms of character and attitude, they may be motivated by, and to do, different things, the transformation [if there is one] is not, however, supernatural.

Then I suggest you may not have been a Christian and that you oughta have a heart-to-heart with Christians in your community about whether they agree with your assessment.