Why is everything in the Bible true and accurate?

@ghost-of-a-duke said
I'm asking you Kelly why Jesus asked his father if He had abandoned him, if as you say, 'they are in total harmony with each other doing all things in agreement' ?

It's ok if you don't know the answer.

He knows the answer, but his priority is church first, truth second. Here is another one

And he went a little further, and fell on his face, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me: nevertheless not as I will, but as thou wilt. And he cometh unto the disciples, and findeth them asleep, and saith unto Peter, What, could ye not watch with me one hour? Watch and pray, that ye enter not into temptation: the spirit indeed is willing, but the flesh is weak. He went away again the second time, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if this cup may not pass away from me, except I drink it, thy will be done.(Matthew 26:39-42 KJV)

Christ is begging God to stop the crucification

God the Father
Jesus the Son
Two separate and distinct entities

Clearly the Trinity was a poorly thought out doctrine. The framers of that doctrine felt it was ok to throw all events not fitting into it, in the category of 'mysterious'.

@ghost-of-a-duke said
I'm asking you Kelly why Jesus asked his father if He had abandoned him, if as you say, 'they are in total harmony with each other doing all things in agreement' ?

It's ok if you don't know the answer.

He took on humanity with all the draw backs except sin, never in eternity has the Father and Son been apart it was in my opinion along with becoming sin incredibly traumatic on top of that He was to be punished for us all. The righteous for the unrighteous, the sinless for sinners.

@kellyjay said
He took on humanity with all the draw backs except sin, never in eternity has the Father and Son been apart it was in my opinion along with becoming sin incredibly traumatic on top of that He was to be punished for us all. The righteous for the unrighteous, the sinless for sinners.

Sorry Kelly but that isn't answering the question.

@ghost-of-a-duke said
Sorry Kelly but that isn't answering the question.

Yes it did

@sonship said
I would like to ask you Divegeester SOMETHING which you have not been asked before. You like repetition ad infinitum.

Let me ask you this:

If Jesus said "the Father is greater than I" and the Father has bestowed upon Jesus a name which is above every name, then to make the Father happy shouldn't we too exalt Jesus to the uttermost in our hearts forever ...[text shortened]... should openly confess that Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory of God the Father." (Phil 2:9-11) [/b]

My post on the previous page completely and succinctly debunks this notion of a multi-headed god called a trinity

@kellyjay said
Yes it did

You said all members of the trinity were in total harmony with each other doing all things in agreement. And yet we have Jesus crying out to God on the cross asking why he has been forsaken. How is this harmony? How is this doing things in agreement?

Saying it was traumatic for Jesus doesn't address these questions.

@ghost-of-a-duke said
You said all members of the trinity were in total harmony with each other doing all things in agreement. And yet we have Jesus crying out to God on the cross asking why he has been forsaken. How is this harmony? How is this doing things in agreement?

Saying it was traumatic for Jesus doesn't address these questions.

He went through a horror unknown to Him as God, being sin, suffering God's rejection. As a human, He could experience it and can now relate to us throughout all eternity from now on, so now He is forever interceding for us.

The tremendous cost to God was taking on something His divine nature couldn't; God cannot ever be less than God, so as God, He couldn't do anything that would make Him less than when it comes to His goodness, justice, righteousness, and so on. Through Jesus' obeying the Father, God lays down His life for us, becomes sin for us, so we could have the righteousness of God as a gift to us not earned because it is all God, not us. This is why the only way to God was created for us by God, and this time we take God at His Word, not like Adam and Eve did where the world was perfect, and they fall; we are in a world corrupt and are made righteous.

Those that think Jesus was just a human nothing more may have no issues with His crying out, but why would a single human being be worth all of humanity, even perfect, he would be just a man? If He was something more than human, a created being somewhere in between human and God; He could not have been tempted at all if He was purely designed for such a task. It would be no different than saying I'll kill one of my kids for I can restore a relationship with someone I like a lot. Instead, we see God laying down His life for us, no greater love than laying down one's life for a friend, God did it for His enemies.

@divegeester said
Why does everything which is written in the Bible have be taken as being absolute truth, morally right, totally accurate etc?

This is a serious honest question.

So here we are 24 pages in and not one robust scriptural argument to respond to my OP.

Why should a person believe that everything in the bible is true and accurate?

@divegeester said
So here we are 24 pages in and not one robust scriptural argument to respond to my OP.

Why should a person believe that everything in the bible is true and accurate?

As a professing Christian, I would have thought you knew; no wonder you pick and choose which parts you like to figure out what to claim you want to accept or not.

@kellyjay said
As a professing Christian, I would have thought you knew; no wonder you pick and choose which parts you like to figure out what to claim you want to accept or not.

My Christianity is not based on wether of not I know or believe or feel that everything in the Bible is true. It is based on the outworking in my life and spirit of those aspects of scripture which I know now to be true subjectively. I have no witness that EVERYTHING in the Bible is true and no scriptural evidence either. The claim is handed down by word of mouth by humans from parent to child from your pastor to you.

So I’m asking you to show me evidence of why a person should accept that everything in the Bible is true and accurate, and you can’t.

What are you going to do now, threaten me with judgment again?

@divegeester said
My Christianity is not based on wether of not I know or believe or feel that everything in the Bible is true. It is based on the outworking in my life and spirit of those aspects of scripture which I know now to be true subjectively. I have no witness that EVERYTHING in the Bible is true and no scriptural evidence either. The claim is handed down by word of mouth by human ...[text shortened]... true and accurate, and you can’t.

What are you going to do now, threaten me with judgment again?

The Word itself says don't add to it or take it away, Jesus says we are to live by every Word of God. You don't care what the Bible says, nothing I've said or could say will matter to you.

@divegeester said
So here we are 24 pages in and not one robust scriptural argument to respond to my OP.

Why should a person believe that everything in the bible is true and accurate?

All Scripture is God breathed.

God is omniscient.

It is impossible for God to lie.

Pretty simple.

@divegeester said
It is from Revelation 14:10 and other related verses.

How do you interpret Revelation 14:10???

Why do you ignore the verses immediately before and after it?

Because they blow your silly Christ-bashing nonsense out of the water?

@rajk999 said
He knows the answer, but his priority is church first, truth second. Here is another one

[i]And he went a little further, and fell on his face, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me: nevertheless not as I will, but as thou wilt. And he cometh unto the disciples, and findeth them asleep, and saith unto Peter, What, could ye not watch ...[text shortened]... at doctrine felt it was ok to throw all events not fitting into it, in the category of 'mysterious'.

<<Christ is begging God to stop the crucification >>

Jesus Christ went to the cross willingly and of His own volition. He was not “begging” God the Father to stop the crucifixion. That is a gross and blasphemous error.

“Thinkest thou that I cannot now pray to my Father, and he shall presently give me more than twelve legions of angels?

But how then shall the scriptures be fulfilled, that thus it must be?”

(Matthew 26:53-54)

Was Jesus looking forward to the scourging and cross.

Obviously not.

But He placed nothing above God the Father’s will.

@divegeester said
My Christianity is not based on wether of not I know or believe or feel that everything in the Bible is true. It is based on the outworking in my life and spirit of those aspects of scripture which I know now to be true subjectively. I have no witness that EVERYTHING in the Bible is true and no scriptural evidence either. The claim is handed down by word of mouth by human ...[text shortened]... true and accurate, and you can’t.

What are you going to do now, threaten me with judgment again?

At the risk of repeating myself,

1) All Scripture is from God.

2) God is omniscient.

3) God never lies.

Here are some citations:

“All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness,”

(2 Timothy 3:16)

“Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure:”

(Isaiah 46:10)

“For if our heart condemn us, God is greater than our heart, and knoweth all things.”

(1 John 3:20)

“In hope of eternal life, which God, that cannot lie, promised before the world began;”

(Titus 1:2)