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Why torturing people for eternity is wrong

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Originally posted by @dj2becker
That's rich coming from someone who believes there are no moral absolutes. You think I'm 'disturbed' according to which objective standard again?
How about you confirm you understand that I am 'absolute about my own morality' when it comes to child abuse, rather than ignoring that so you can continue with your depraved analogies?

Do you think you can do that and then resist the dark places your mind is drawn to? We both agree that without God, mankind is responsible for its own concept of right and wrong and that this is unlikely to be consistent across the entire planet. (This is obviously the case if there is no moral lawgiver). Process that and then stop with the sick questions. (You will need to do this of your own accord as weak Christians like Sonship won't challenge you on it).

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People who believe Satan's lie believe that God is to be judged by man. People who believe this end up hanging out with like minded beings for eternity.

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Originally posted by @fmf
I was a Christian for almost 30 years. I make no secret of the fact. The point was that lemon lime went from not believing in eternal torture to believing in eternal torture in the space of a few posts and after a PM from Grampy Bobby.
So what past 30 years ago is better than 40 years ago? Why do you feel drugging up the
past to review views in the present is okay when you do it to others, but not when you are
asked?

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Originally posted by @fmf
Another rather ridiculous fuddy duddy blowhard kind of Christian - like you are - who did something similar on the topic of eternal torture was josephw. He explicitly called the theology an abomination but then appeared to start subscribing to it in order to differentiate himself from divegeester and because he had no appetite for standing in front of the sonship hairdryer.
Are you responding to yourself here?

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Originally posted by @kellyjay
Are you responding to yourself here?
FMF is simply a loser who blames his miserable existence on God and Christians.

No other reason to waste so much of his time as he does.

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Originally posted by @kellyjay
So what past 30 years ago is better than 40 years ago? Why do you feel drugging up the
past to review views in the present is okay when you do it to others, but not when you are
asked?
The change of belief happened here on a thread on this forum not so long ago. This is not what happened to me. lemon lime has always posted here at RHP as a Christian. I have always posted here as a non-Christian. What he really believes about the toturer god ideology: your guess is as good as mine.

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Originally posted by @eladar
FMF is simply a loser who blames his miserable existence on God and Christians.

No other reason to waste so much of his time as he does.
I don't have a "miserable existence". And I don't "blame" any of the Christians I've known for anything.

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Originally posted by @kellyjay
Are you responding to yourself here?
It is a continuation of what I was saying to lemon lime.

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Originally posted by @fmf
It is a continuation of what I was saying to lemon lime.
I've done that too. 🙂

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Originally posted by @fmf
The change of belief happened here on a thread on this forum not so long ago. This is not what happened to me. lemon lime has always posted here at RHP as a Christian. I have always posted here as a non-Christian. What he really believes about the toturer god ideology: your guess is as good as mine.
Isn't it in this thread, you said the past wasn't important only the present? That it does not
really matter what anyone did, or once believed if true. It is possible you didn't say it in
this thread, but elsewhere, even so that is now the past and we all know how you dislike
the past, at least talking about yours.

I'm getting way too much mileage out of this, ask what you will I'll answer.

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Originally posted by @kellyjay
Isn't in this thread you said the past wasn't important only the present? Doesn't really matter
what anyone did, or once believed if true. It is possible you didn't say it here, but elsewhere
but that is the past and we all know how you dislike the past, at least talking about yours. 🙂

I'm getting way to much millage out of this, ask what you will I'll answer.
You don't seem to understand the episode I'm talking about. Your whole reaction to is a kind of non-sequitur.

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Originally posted by @lemon-lime
It would be arrogant to presume to know what anyone else remembers or believes, so if that's how you remember it and you want to call it "not believing" that is your prerogative.

During that 40 years I learned to trust God, regardless of whether or not I understood what I was reading. I struggled with the idea of eternal torment, but this does not mean I disbelieved it.
I have told the story accurately. What you actually believe is scarcely here nor there.

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Originally posted by @fmf
You don't seem to understand the episode I'm talking about. Your whole reaction to is a kind of non-sequitur.
Had to change that post, sorry.

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Originally posted by @fmf
The episode with lemon lime happened in 'real time' here on a thread on this forum. It was a case of the need for acrimonious Christian-on-Christian banter ~ lemon lime's stock in trade here a few years back ~ trumping belief and principle.
So throw him out like yesterday's trash, eh?

After all, you have divegeester for that now, I suppose.

Oh, yeah, we can't forget your other tool against Christians, Rajk.

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Originally posted by @kellyjay
The past, you remember other's past clearly, but not your own?
Who has said I don't remember my own past? What on earth are you on about?

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