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Why torturing people for eternity is wrong

Why torturing people for eternity is wrong

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KellyJay
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Originally posted by @fmf
I am not a liar, and I haven't lied about anything, whatever you might choose to say in the midst of an exchange of views that makes you uncomfortable. And I haven't called you a liar either. I take what you say about yourself at face value and in good faith. For me, this is a matter of common decency even if it's not for you.
Fine, you are not a liar according to you. I told you due to your lack of response I was
beginning to mistrust your story about your past, frankly that hasn't changed. You have
said a great deal about me directly in the past, my motives have been questioned among
other things. I frankly don't even worry about that either, you may have done the
the same thing to me as I'm doing to you. Which is looking at what was said or not said,
and coming up with reasons why those things would be said. Common decency, I think is
not very common here, if you want to be treated a little more respectful it may be useful
to do the same to others here as well. If you choose to only respond to questions that
interest you, do not be surprised others do the same.

KellyJay
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Originally posted by @fmf
I am an agnostic atheist. Assertions about the "truth" of the gospels are for Christians to make. Stop deflecting. Stop running away from the discussion.
Not going to repeat myself, you know my answer, and you know why. Now you are just
being a pest.

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Originally posted by @kellyjay
Not going to repeat myself, you know my answer, and you know why. Now you are just
being a pest.
It's a pity you have just wriggled out of a straightforward conversation by making non-sequitur accusations of me lying. Common courtesy, KellyJay. I have not accused you of lying. Stop deflecting. If you don't know the answer to my question or don't know how to rebut the point I made then just say so. Your behaviour is uncalled for. You should be big enough to return the common courtesy.

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Originally posted by @kellyjay
Fine, you are not a liar according to you. I told you due to your lack of response I was
beginning to mistrust your story about your past, frankly that hasn't changed. You have
said a great deal about me directly in the past, my motives have been questioned among
other things. I frankly don't even worry about that either, you may have done the
the same ...[text shortened]... choose to only respond to questions that
interest you, do not be surprised others do the same.
Stop deflecting.

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Originally posted by @kellyjay
Common decency, I think is not very common here, if you want to be treated a little more respectful it may be useful to do the same to others here as well.
You have accused me of lying about myself. While I have not accused you of lying about yourself. I AM treating you the same way I'd expect you to treat me.

KellyJay
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Originally posted by @fmf
Stop deflecting.
I think you are confusing deflection with rejection. I at first also believed that those who you claimed turned you from your old faith must have been some evil types of people. Now I doubt that too, since you only have eyes that see things the way you want and only that way. You also only care about how you want things to be in stead of trying to actually listen to those you are talking to, you are very quick too tell others what they are really doing instead of listening to what they are trying to tell you.

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Originally posted by @kellyjay
I think you are confusing deflection with rejection. I at first also believed that those who you claimed turned you from your old faith must have been some evil types of people. Now I doubt that too, since you only have eyes that see things the way you want and only that way. You also only care about how you want things to be in stead of trying to actually ...[text shortened]... tell others what they are really doing instead of listening to what they are trying to tell you.
This exchange between you two doesn’t live up to its billing as torturing people for eternity, but it could get there given enough time. 🙂

lemon lime
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Originally posted by @divegeester
Perhaps if you actually read the OP and then addressed the structure of points laid out in it instead of causally lobbing this silly ad-hominem over the fence and running away...?
I participated in your lame torture idea a year or so ago.
Recycling it here now doesn't mean I've never addressed it.

You're a 'Christian' (presumably a follower of Christ's teachings) who takes issue with many of his teachings... this makes about as much sense as an avowed atheist claiming he believes in God.
The atheists here believe Christians are fools, and apparently so do you.

KellyJay
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Originally posted by @js357
This exchange between you two doesn’t live up to its billing as torturing people for eternity, but it could get there given enough time. 🙂
ROFL

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Originally posted by @kellyjay
I at first also believed that those who you claimed turned you from your old faith must have been some evil types of people.
I have never made any claim about 'people who turned me from my faith'. You are just making stuff up.

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Originally posted by @kellyjay
You also only care about how you want things to be in stead of trying to actually listen to those you are talking to, you are very quick too tell others what they are really doing instead of listening to what they are trying to tell you.
I am perfectly willing and happy to listen to your answer to my questions about Jesus on one hand, and child sex abusers and people who protect children from sex abusers on the other. I am willing to listen to what you may, at some point, try to tell me.

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Originally posted by @fmf
I have never made any claim about 'people who turned me from my faith'. You are just making stuff up.
Then I'm mistaken, sorry must of confused something you said, or with someone else.
My bad.

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Originally posted by @lemon-lime
I participated in your lame torture idea a year or so ago.
Recycling it here now doesn't mean I've never addressed it.

You're a 'Christian' (presumably a follower of Christ's teachings) who takes issue with many of his teachings... this makes about as much sense as an avowed atheist claiming he believes in God.
The atheists here believe Christians are fools, and apparently so do you.
I remember you getting involved a couple of years ago. You were undecided wether or not you believed in eternal suffering until Grampy Bobby came along and posted something about the “worm” and then all of a sudden you BELIEVED!

What was it that he said that changed your mind? You ran away from the thread soon afterwards.

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Originally posted by @kellyjay
ROFL
Instead of exchanging “winks” with Lemon Lime and “ROFL”, why not meet FMFs question to you head on, unequivocally and with clarity?

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Originally posted by @lemon-lime
I participated in your lame torture idea a year or so ago.
Recycling it here now doesn't mean I've never addressed it.

You're a 'Christian' (presumably a follower of Christ's teachings) who takes issue with many of his teachings... this makes about as much sense as an avowed atheist claiming he believes in God.
The atheists here believe Christians are fools, and apparently so do you.
Some Christians ARE fools.

What's your point?

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