Why torturing people for eternity is wrong

Originally posted by @chaney3
He attacks your God.
He attacks your Jesus.

In which post or posts did I "attack God" or "attack Jesus"? What posts are you referring to? I debate and discuss ideology here. Where did I "attack Jesus" for example?

Originally posted by @chaney3 to divegeester
Now, that's fine, but I think [FMF] being a former Christian is what rubs me the wrong way. You would think he would have some...any...kind thoughts about it all, but he doesn't.

If your belief in Jesus gives you solace in the face of the inevitability of death, if it gives you a sense of meaning and purpose in life, and if it helps you to live your life in a morally sound way, then good for you ~ and perhaps good for those around you too.

Christian faith has had such a positive effect on the lives of so many people I have known and loved throughout my life, and I can still say that to this day.

There are some kind thoughts. And they are things I have said over and over and over again. I've said them to you before, directly. You must have forgotten.

Originally posted by @chaney3
At times, FMF acts like someone who quit smoking after doing it for many years, then treats current smokers with an attitude of sorts, and forgets that he once smoked himself.

I think you are mistaken about both my contribution and my attitude here in this community and are therefore mischaracterizing them both.

Originally posted by @fmf
If your belief in Jesus gives you solace in the face of the inevitability of death, if it gives you a sense of meaning and purpose in life, and if it helps you to live your life in a morally sound way, then good for you ~ and perhaps good for those around you too.

Christian faith has had such a positive effect on the lives of so many people I have known and ...[text shortened]... d over and over and over again. I've said them to you before, directly. You must have forgotten.

Okay.
You just aggravate me.
Ignore the SOB thing in the other thread.

Originally posted by @chaney3 to divegeester
I don't like how you act when someone challenges FMF.

If you have indeed challenged me in any meaningful way on any of my on-topic observations and questions on any of the current threads, please show me where.

Originally posted by @fmf
If you have indeed challenged me in any meaningful way on any of my on-topic observations and questions on any of the current threads, please show me where.

Arrogant.
Plain and simple.

Originally posted by @chaney3
At times, FMF acts like someone who quit smoking after doing it for many years, then treats current smokers with an attitude of sorts, and forgets that he once smoked himself.

Why can't you see that?
Your blinded by your alliance with him.

Whatever you do don't ask him why he quit smoking.

Originally posted by @chaney3
Arrogant.
Plain and simple.

If you have challenged me in any meaningful on-topic way in your latest volley of posts, tell me where they are.

Originally posted by @fmf
In which post or posts did I "attack God" or "attack Jesus"? What posts are you referring to? I debate and discuss ideology here. Where did I "attack Jesus" for example?

Debate is a back and forth, you call what you do debate? Why then don't you respond to
questions others ask you, just because it isn't interesting to you it is part of a debate to go
back and forth. When all you do is attack someone else' thoughts and beliefs that is more
like a lecture or just pure insults than debate.

Originally posted by @fmf
I challenged you on this notion you have that Rajk999 advocates "bribing" God earlier on this thread and I was very specific about the points you could have addressed. Instead you immediately started deflecting and basically ran away.

"Bribing God" or simply 'obeying Jesus' commandments'?

I'm not interested in that question.

Originally posted by @kellyjay
Debate is a back and forth, you call what you do debate?

Yes.

Originally posted by @kellyjay
I'm not interested in that question.

You keep stating that Rajk999's 'doctrine' is about "bribing God" when it is in fact ~ at least as he sees it ~ about obeying Jesus' commandments. I suggest you tackle Rajk999 on what he believes is the way to follow Christ rather than tackling your own silly caricature of what he believes.

Originally posted by @kellyjay
Why then don't you respond to questions others ask you, just because it isn't interesting to you it is part of a debate to go back and forth.

I do respond to questions that others ask me and I have done so tens of thousands of times on this forum. I reserve the right to step over red herrings and deflections. The answer to questions about the incoherent and poorly expressed things you claim to be "true" will not be found by asking me red herring questions about things I believed in the past and no longer believe. I am interested in discussing my current beliefs and the only beliefs of yours that I interested in are your current ones.

Originally posted by @fmf
I do respond to questions that others ask me and I have done so tens of thousands of times on this forum. I reserve the right to step over red herrings and deflections. The answer to questions about the incoherent and poorly expressed things you claim to be "true" will not be found by asking me red herring questions about things I believed in the past and no lo ...[text shortened]... ing my current beliefs and the only beliefs of yours that I interested in are your current ones.

Yea, and I'm supposed to be impressed with you only answer questions that interest you,
and only about those topics you that interest you. You judge me by suggesting
deflections, red herrings, how I poorly express myself, call me names, and belittle me.

Mean while I'm trying to have a discussion with you, so forgive me if your interests are not
always at the top of my list of matters of interest as we discuss things.

Originally posted by @kellyjay
Yea, and I'm supposed to be impressed with you only answer questions that interest you, and only about those topics you that interest you. You judge me by suggesting
deflections, red herrings, how I poorly express myself, call me names, and belittle me.

If putting yourself and your ideas out there in a public arena and marketplace of ideas has resulted in you developing a chip on your shoulder, then so be it.