Why torturing people for eternity is wrong

Originally posted by @kellyjay
Mean while I'm trying to have a discussion with you, so forgive me if your interests are not always at the top of my list of matters of interest as we discuss things.

You seem interested in characterizing Rajk999's doctrine as "bribing God". I am interested in how you seek to characterize Rajk999's doctrine as "bribing God". We have an overlap of interests. Why not discuss it?

Originally posted by @fmf
If putting yourself and your ideas out there in a public arena and marketplace of ideas has resulted in you developing a chip on your shoulder, then so be it.

LOL, hardly.

Originally posted by @fmf
You seem interested in characterizing Rajk999's doctrine as "bribing God". I am interested in how you seek to characterize Rajk999's doctrine as "bribing God". We have an overlap of interests. Why not discuss it?

He used the words, please you don't know what you are talking about.
Why not discuss what you used to believe when you claimed you were a Christian by
describing the gospel as it was real to you?

Originally posted by @kellyjay
LOL, hardly.

I don't feel belittled by anyone here - not in the slightest - and yet I cop far, far more highly personalized stick than you do. What are you complaining about?

You seem interested in characterizing Rajk999's doctrine as "bribing God". I am interested in how you seek to characterize Rajk999's doctrine as "bribing God". We have an overlap of interests. Why not discuss it?

Originally posted by @kellyjay
He used the words, please you don't know what you are talking about.

Rajk999 used the words "bribe" or "bribing God" with reference to obeying Jesus' commandments? Where? When was this?

Originally posted by @kellyjay
Why not discuss what you used to believe when you claimed you were a Christian by describing the gospel as it was real to you?

For the same reason as I have given the previous 4-5 times you have asked me and also because the answer to my question regarding your claim about Rajk999 - and what you call his "bribing God" doctrine - is not to be found in me describing my Christian past. Your repeated request is a deflection.

Originally posted by @divegeester
Every so often you make this post “ask me your toughest question”. It appears to me that you do this when find yourself pinned, angry and intensely frustrated.

There is an unanswered question a few posts above this post of yours which I’m replying to. Not one Christian in this forum will answer it including you. Here it is yet again...

[b]Is it m ...[text shortened]... estions about my rejection of your teaching/doctrines and the subsequent impact on my salvation.

Gently bumped for sonship.

Every so often you make this post “ask me your toughest question”. It appears to me that you do this when find yourself pinned, angry and intensely frustrated.

There is an unanswered question a few posts above this post of yours which I’m replying to. Not one Christian in this forum will answer it including you. Here it is yet again...

Is it morally right to burn a person alive for eternity?

Have a yes or no crack at that one, then we can get back to the other questions about my rejection of your teaching/doctrines and the subsequent impact on my salvation.

Originally posted by @fmf
Rajk999 used the words "bribe" or "bribing God" with reference to obeying Jesus' commandments? Where? When was this?

In one of his posts, I'm not going to look it up. You want to defend all of his posts maybe
you should read all of this posts.

Originally posted by @fmf
For the same reason as I have given the previous 4-5 times you have asked me and also because the answer to my question regarding your claim about Rajk999 - and what you call his "bribing God" doctrine - is not to be found in me describing my Christian past. Your repeated request is a deflection.

Whatever

Originally posted by @fmf
Rajk999 used the words "bribe" or "bribing God" with reference to obeying Jesus' commandments? Where? When was this?

KJ posted something about bribing God.
So I used HIS words and answered him accordingly.

Here it is

So when we apply our rules/laws/understanding to Him, can we really
grasp who He is, without His help? Can we do anything to make Him act
one way or another, can we bribe Him, can we do enough good things
to atone for the wicked things we do?

Its in the thread "his ways are not ours"

Originally posted by @rajk999
KJ posted something about bribing God.
So I used HIS words and answered him accordingly.

No, you agreed and said more than once God could be bribed.
I didn't except anyone to say he could, but there you were.

Originally posted by @kellyjay
No, you agreed and said more than once God could be bribed.
I didn't except anyone to say he could, but there you were.

Yes God could be bribed with good works and righteousness.

Your question was nonsense but I still answered it

Originally posted by @rajk999
Yes God could be bribed with good works and righteousness.

Your question was nonsense but I still answered it

No, God cannot be bribed there is nothing you do, offer, or be that can make Him do
anything against His will. What you think is a god must be very lame if He can be so
impressed by some works, you call good.

Originally posted by @kellyjay
No, God cannot be bribed there is nothing you do, offer, or be that can make Him do
anything against His will. What you think is a god must be very lame if He can be so
impressed by some works, you call good.

Where did I say that you are making him do something against his will?
You really have a few loose screws.

A bribe is something you give in order to obtain the favour of someone.

God favours those who live righteously and would sometimes reward them with lots of material things and good stuff.

Abraham, David and Solomon - they pleased God and were obedient to his commandments and God BECAUSE OF THAT rewarded them with money, property, power, wealth, women, in fact even forgave them all their grievous sins.

Lesser mortals [like the unrighteous] would not have had Gods favour.

Originally posted by @rajk999
Where did I say that you are making him do something against his will?
You really have a few loose screws.

A bribe is something you give in order to obtain the favour of someone.

God favours those who live righteously and would sometimes reward them with lots of material things and good stuff.

Abraham, David and Solomon - they pleased God and were ...[text shortened]... ll their grievous sins.

Lesser mortals [like the unrighteous] would not have had Gods favour.

Do you understand what the word bribe means?