Why we can’t save ourselves

@sonship said
@ThinkOfOne

The original question is fallacious in and of itself.

There is NO indication that you believe in God. Certainly if there is no God there is for you no Savior God. Thus the any "saving" in your philosophy has nothing to do with God.

This renders the whole OP's concern "fallacious" in relation to ANY biblical salvation.

Thanks ...[text shortened]... t your unbelief in God is strange.

You are a tare sown among the wheat. (Matthew 13:24-30)

Isaiah 1
16“Wash yourselves, make yourselves clean;
Remove the evil of your deeds from My sight.
Cease to do evil,
17Learn to do good;
Seek justice,
Reprove the ruthless,
Defend the orphan,
Plead for the widow.
18“Come now, and let us reason together,”
Says the LORD,
“Though your sins are as scarlet,
They will be as white as snow;
Though they are red like crimson,
They will be like wool.

@ThinkOfOne

Your interpretation of scripture causes you to preach another gospel than what JESUS taught while He preached HIS GOSPEL.

Bible study with the stealth secretive atheist is futile.

@sonship said
@ThinkOfOne

The original question is fallacious in and of itself.

There is NO indication that you believe in God. Certainly if there is no God there is for you no Savior God. Thus the any "saving" in your philosophy has nothing to do with God.

This renders the whole OP's concern "fallacious" in relation to ANY biblical salvation.

Thanks ...[text shortened]... t your unbelief in God is strange.

You are a tare sown among the wheat. (Matthew 13:24-30)

You are taking liberties with bible interpretation. The tares who will be burnt, are the goats in Matt 25, who did no good works. You are one of the tares according to your doctrine.

@ThinkOfOne

Isaiah 1
16“Wash yourselves, make yourselves clean;
Remove the evil of your deeds from My sight.
Cease to do evil,

Translation people --- there is no God. Just clean up your act. Stop being evil.

17Learn to do good;

Translation folks ---- there is no God. Just learn to do good.

Seek justice,

Translation readers ---- There is no God at all. Just seek justice.

Reprove the ruthless,

Translation --- The existence of God is irrelevant and actually false. Just reprove the ruthless.

Defend the orphan,

Translation --- C'mon people. There is no God. Just go out and defend the orphan.

Plead for the widow.

Translation ---- No God exists, needed, available or necessary. C'mon, just go out and plead for the widow.

@rajk999 said
Correct. Thats precisely what Jesus said:

Blessed are those who understand the whole bible: for they shall see God.
(The Fool 5:8 KellyJay Version)

You are of the opinion that the Bible is at conflict with itself, that some parts don't agree with others?

@sonship said
@ThinkOfOne

Isaiah 1
16“Wash yourselves, make yourselves clean;
Remove the evil of your deeds from My sight.
Cease to do evil,

Translation people --- there is no God. Just clean up your act. Stop being evil.

17Learn to do good;

Translation folks ---- there is no God. Just learn to do good.

Seek justice,

...[text shortened]... tion ---- No God exists, needed, available or necessary. C'mon, just go out and plead for the widow.

Interesting how jaywill translates the words spoken by God. After going through the Jaywill Translator, all the original meaning has been taken out and replaced. This often happens with the words spoken by Jesus as well.

@Rajk999

You are taking liberties with bible interpretation.

Name a "liberty" I took with my analysis of your paragraph.

The tares who will be burnt, are the goats in Matt 25, who did no good works.

That is right that both the tares - false believers are burnt up and the goats of the living nations after the great tribulation go to the eternal fire - the eternal punishment.

I didn't teach otherwise.

You are one of the tares according to your doctrine.

No I am not. But I recognize that your want to eliminate FAITH from "saved through faith" in -

"For by grace you have been saved through faith ..."

And you are the one who refuses to confess that he who has the Son has the life.

"And this is the testimony, that God gave to us eternal life and this life is in His Son. He who has the Son has the the life; he who does not have the Son of God does not have the life." (1 John 5:11,12)

And you come here to frustrate the faith of believers in Christ with a wolf in sheep's clothing phony concern for obeying His commandments. So the tare sown by the enemy among the wheat is more likely you.

@ThinkOfOne

Interesting how jaywill translates the words spoken by God. After going through the Jaywill Translator, all the original meaning has been taken out and replaced. This often happens with the words spoken by Jesus as well.

Interesting that sinkhole puts himself out as one who reads and writes ancient Hebrew and Koine Greek

Any number of good English translations show God saying there is no Savior besides Him.

Fast Eddie hasn't the guts to admit to the world that God IS NOT for him. He needs "Jesus while he walked the earth" and "according to God" decoys to dignify his invented humanistic self improvement philosophy.

I would not be surprised at all if this guy is on some payroll somewhere of unsuspecting Christians among whom he has lied or coned someone to sneak in as their "pastor" - maybe some very liberal denominational congregation.

Do you wear a funny collar there too, Fast Eddie ?

@ThinkOfOne

Interesting how jaywill translates the words spoken by God.

By "Translation" above I mean I know how to DECODE this guy's stealth theological talk.
And that even when he is quoting Scripture to deceive us.

@sonship said
@Rajk999

You are taking liberties with bible interpretation.

Name a "liberty" I took with my analysis of your paragraph.

The tares who will be burnt, are the goats in Matt 25, who did no good works.

That is right that both the tares - false believers are burnt up and the goats of the living nations after the great ...[text shortened]... cern for obeying His commandments. So the tare sown by the enemy among the wheat is more likely you.

I notice that you classify keeping the commandments of Christ as frustrating.
Clearly you are a goat.

@kellyjay said
You are of the opinion that the Bible is at conflict with itself, that some parts don't agree with others?

There is no conflict in the teachings of Christ.

@Rajk999

I notice that you classify keeping the commandments of Christ as frustrating.
Clearly you are a goat.

Clearly you want to take the quick lazy way rather than taking the time, to counter argue my analysis of your main post in this thread.

@rajk999 said
There is no conflict in the teachings of Christ.

That was not the question!

@kellyjay said
That was not the question!

Jesus is the answer to the question How do we get eternal life?
Through doing good works and living righteously as Jesus commanded.
There is no other way.

@sonship said
@Rajk999

I notice that you classify keeping the commandments of Christ as frustrating.
Clearly you are a goat.

Clearly you want to take the quick lazy way rather than taking the time, to counter argue my analysis of your main post in this thread.

You are sick man. You think there is some virtue in arguing about bible teachings. There is one virtue and that involves the keeping of the commandments. Everything else is pure vanity.