‘Eternal suffering’ is nonsensical

Originally posted by @suzianne
Christ's death covers Everything, EXCEPT worshipping the Beast and/or taking his mark.

This is a big claim, I'm confident you can back it up though...right?

Originally posted by @suzianne
[b]"One does not need an alternative premise in order to be able to reject an incorrect one."

Really? How then can you make sense of it? Can you honestly say that you believe sinners just go off to Heaven (or your version of it) regardless of their unrepentant sin?[/b]

Really?
Yes, I don't have the overweening need to understand, or claim that I understand, everything in the Bible.

How then can you make sense of it?
See reply above

Can you honestly say that you believe sinners just go off to Heaven (or your version of it) regardless of their unrepentant sin?
No I can't honestly say this because I don't know. What I do know is that they won't be burning alive in hell while Jesus oversees.

Originally posted by @divegeester
This is a big claim, I'm confident you can back it up though...right?

As I said, the Bible itself "backs it up" in Rev 14:9-11.

Originally posted by @divegeester
What I do know is that they won't be burning alive in hell while Jesus oversees.

Sorry. If they worship the Beast or take his mark, yes, they will.

Originally posted by @divegeester
Christ died and paid the price for every sin of the world, past present and future. How long was he suffering on the cross?? Several hours?? Whatever, it wasn't even a full day! That was for all the genocides, terrorist beheadings, 9/11 (to bring the Americans into focus), child murders, everything, ever.

Even the sins of Satan? Are you sure about that?

Christ died so that Satan may live? Wait... what?

Originally posted by @divegeester
So why do you think posters like sonship have so much difficulty with verses you think are obviously self-explanatory?

Seriously, I have no idea.

But he gets it right far more often than he gets it wrong.

Originally posted by @fmf
"Eviscerate"? Are you sure you know what the word means?

More interestingly, hearing your interpretation of Lazarus and the rich man could cause a divided-and-conquered situation? You make your beliefs sound very brittle.

Really, you'd think I'd learn my lesson of giving you even a percentage of my attention... ever.

Originally posted by @suzianne
As I said, the Bible itself "backs it up" in Rev 14:9-11.

Not really., not at all actually.

How do you differentiate between sins covered by the 'blood' of Christ of those who you say are annihilated, and the sins of those cast into eternal suffering?

Originally posted by @suzianne
But he gets it right far more often than he gets it wrong.

Which parts of the damnation concept and which you say are obvious/self explanatory do you think he gets right?

Originally posted by @suzianne
Really, you'd think I'd learn my lesson of giving you even a percentage of my attention... ever.

You often post dozens and dozens of times in a week responding to me. In terms of 'percentage' it makes up almost 100% of your attention on some of your swingbys.

What definition of "Eviscerate" are you using?

Originally posted by @suzianne
Even the sins of Satan? Are you sure about that?

Christ died so that Satan may live? Wait... what?

Oh dear. Do I have to put **except non humans after every post.

Originally posted by @divegeester
Not really., not at all actually.

How do you differentiate between sins covered by the 'blood' of Christ of those who you say are annihilated, and the sins of those cast into eternal suffering?

Apparently, worshipping the Beast or taking his mark is a much, MUCH bigger deal. Those annihilated in the Lake of Fire are simply annihilated, soul and all, since they refused to accept the offer of eternal life.

Actively joining with Satan to attempt to overthrow God is a sin beyond measure. It is literally the single worst thing a human (or an angel) could ever do. Thus deserving of the same punishment as Satan.

Originally posted by @divegeester
Oh dear. Do I have to put **except non humans after every post.

So you accept that such punishment is "okay" for Satan.

What about those who worship him?

Originally posted by @divegeester
Which parts of the damnation concept and which you say are obvious/self explanatory do you think he gets right?

I don't know exactly what you fold into the umbrella concept of "damnation".

Originally posted by @suzianne
Apparently, worshipping the Beast or taking his mark is a much, MUCH bigger deal. Those annihilated in the Lake of Fire are simply annihilated, soul and all, since they refused to accept the offer of eternal life.

Actively joining with Satan to attempt to overthrow God is a sin beyond measure. It is literally the single worst thing a human (or an angel) could ever do. Thus deserving of the same punishment as Satan.

Well we should warn people of what this means.

What is the "mark of the beast"?
What is "joining with Satan"?