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Originally posted by Red Night
Yeah, it is sad that Michigan has dissapointed the last few years. Lloyd is gone...that's got to help.

Ohio State vs. USC should be a fun game to watch.
For USC fans ....................

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Big ten is 3-0 vs. the Big east in head to head competition and is ranked higher in the polls.

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Originally posted by poundlee
Big ten is 3-0 vs. the Big east in head to head competition and is ranked higher in the polls.
Parrot; I already addressed the misleading "head to head" matchups. And while the biased polls rate Illinois and Wisconsin slightly better than South Florida and Cincinnati, the computers don't and every single computer rating system I've seen rates the Big East AS A CONFERENCE well above the Big Ten (3 teams aren't a conference, sport).

If Ohio State gets in the Championship Game, they won't be playing Pitt or Syracuse. They'll get West Virginia and they'll get whipped.

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Originally posted by no1marauder
Parrot; I already addressed the misleading "head to head" matchups. And while the biased polls rate Illinois and Wisconsin slightly better than South Florida and Cincinnati, the computers don't and every single computer rating system I've seen rates the Big East AS A CONFERENCE well above the Big Ten (3 teams aren't a conference, sport).

If ...[text shortened]... ey won't be playing Pitt or Syracuse. They'll get West Virginia and they'll get whipped.
I actually would agree with that one...Ohio State...although still a good team cannot deal with the spread offense that WV runs...just like Michigan could not deal with it when Oregon chucked it on them.

Pat White and Steve Slayton cause any defense a ton of problems.

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Originally posted by no1marauder
Parrot; I already addressed the misleading "head to head" matchups. And while the biased polls rate Illinois and Wisconsin slightly better than South Florida and Cincinnati, the computers don't and every single computer rating system I've seen rates the Big East AS A CONFERENCE well above the Big Ten (3 teams aren't a conference, sport).

If ...[text shortened]... ey won't be playing Pitt or Syracuse. They'll get West Virginia and they'll get whipped.
When are you going to change the spelling of your name to "no1moron" because you are certainly more than qualified to claim the title? I am sure there are many more on this site who will second my nomination for your title as well.

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Originally posted by shortcircuit
When are you going to change the spelling of your name to "no1moron" because you are certainly more than qualified to claim the title? I am sure there are many more on this site who will second my nomination for your title as well.
Maybe (probably not, actually, but you haven't been on the site long enough to know why), but not because of this stuff. It was the same kind of talk last year, almost to the letter (except with Boise State), and it all proved true. The Big 10 won 1 bowl game by 3 points (I think), while Michigan and mainly Ohio State and thrashed. Don't know why it would be any different this year, the big 10 sucks more than it even usually does.

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Over the past two years Ohio State has been the best team in the nation. Now they might even play for a national championship. Sounds like a good team to me.

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Originally posted by myteamtrulystinks
Over the past two years Ohio State has been the best team in the nation. Now they might even play for a national championship. Sounds like a good team to me.
Excuse me, but didn't Florida (and arguably Boise State) prove to be better then Ohio State? I hope Ohio State makes the NC game, just to see them lose again in awesome fashion.

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only 2 national champions over the last 39 years
I believe you mean only two national championship in the past decade. Michigan in 97 and Ohio State in 2002. But don't let facts interfere with your moronic rants.

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Originally posted by shortcircuit
When are you going to change the spelling of your name to "no1moron" because you are certainly more than qualified to claim the title? I am sure there are many more on this site who will second my nomination for your title as well.
Seconded

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Originally posted by poundlee
I believe you mean only two national championship in the past decade. Michigan in 97 and Ohio State in 2002. But don't let facts interfere with your moronic rants.
And the last national championship for the Big Ten before '97 was when? More ignoring of the facts.

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Is the argument that the whole big 10 sucks now because it did not win a national championship the decade before this one. I did not think it was even debatable that were a lot of real good teams those years.

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Originally posted by myteamtrulystinks
Is the argument that the whole big 10 sucks now because it did not win a national championship the decade before this one. I did not think it was even debatable that were a lot of real good teams those years.
No, some people are creating a "strawman" by claiming what I am saying is that the entire Big ten "sucks". What I am saying, and what the facts and data show, is that the Big Ten has become an inferior conference in regard to the other BCS automatic bid conferences.

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It is just inaccurate to say that the Big Ten has become inferior to the other BCS conference when it is not worse than the Big East this year and was either the best or second best conference last year.

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Originally posted by poundlee
It is just inaccurate to say that the Big Ten has become inferior to the other BCS conference when it is not worse than the Big East this year and was either the best or second best conference last year.
Stubbornly repeating the same thing over and over and over again is not an argument. The idea that the Big Ten was the "best or second best conference" last year is laughable when they went 2-5 in bowl games and their top two got creamed. And by any measure the Big East is better than the Big Ten this year; the quality wins by the Big East teams prove this (that's one of the reasons the computers are impressed though not midwest coaches and sportswriters).

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