29 Aug 20
@lemon-lime saidYeah, protesting a war is sooooooooooooooooooooooo childish.
I don't know about "reservations".
But I do remember, as a teenager in the 60's, seeing Al Capp cartoons where he depicts college students protesting, and carrying signs that said Students Wildly Indignant about Nearly Everything.
Capp was a right wing nut.
@sonhouse saidObama did his best to regulate,, but Trump, by trashing those regulations, caused tremendous growth in the USA. Made America Great Again, so I dot know where you are coming from. If you socialists had benn around in the early 1900's, Henry Ford could not have cranked out all those cars, and I wonder if Edison could have been allowed to do his thing(s).
@AverageJoe1
Yes, big corporations are SO benign, they care about the common folk so much it would be a TRAVESTY to even THINK about regulating their behavior.
Cant believe I am caterwauling with socialists. In socialism, everyone cant be a socialist , there has to be socialism for the little people to live under. So, you will certainly be rich socialists, and do your best to make your kids socialists. I'll be one myself. I go with the opportunity before me, such as it may be. I think that you fellers, by creating a socialist society for the pitiful wretches to live under, are the ones who Do NOT care for the common folk.
29 Aug 20
@averagejoe1 saidGrowth under Trump was no better than in Obama's second term even before COVID:
Obama did his best to regulate,, but Trump, by trashing those regulations, caused tremendous growth in the USA. Made America Great Again, so I dot know where you are coming from. If you socialists had benn around in the early 1900's, Henry Ford could not have cranked out all those cars, and I wonder if Edison could have been allowed to do his thing(s).
Cant believe ...[text shortened]... st society for the pitiful wretches to live under, are the ones who Do NOT care for the common folk.
"Over the 12 quarters Trump has been President only four of them have had GDP growth over 3% and six of the quarter’s growth was 2.3% or lower. And for the past three quarters GDP growth has been 2.0%, 2.1% and 2.1%, respectively. This is a far cry from Trump’s claim that the economy could growth 4%, 5% or maybe even 6% when he was President.
Under Trump business investment has turned negative the past three quarters and is negative or essentially flat when the impact of inventory changes are taken into account. "
"Using the same GDP metric of consumer spending plus business investment adjusted for inventory changes, Obama’s last three years in office had growth rates of at least 2.17% and as high as 3.06%.
For Trump the high point was 2.83% in 2018 when the tax cut seems to have had the largest impact and even fell short of Obama’s 2014 and 2015 growth rates of 3.06% and 3.05%, respectively.
In 2019 the adjusted growth rate was only 1.99%. This is less than Obama’s three last years in office and less than five of his last six years."
https://www.forbes.com/sites/chuckjones/2020/02/01/trumps-economic-growth-is-slower-than-obamas-last-3-years/#1c7ca1384fed
You believe in fairy tales.
29 Aug 20
@no1marauder saidThanks for the Trump regurgitation. Weren't we on another subject, about the beauty of socialism...equality of the people under socialism (different than that of the Socialists themselves), the takeover and production of cell phones by the government (what a laugh). Everybody doing the exact same amount of work (hahaha), taskmasters being sure no one complained about the miserable conditions....isnt that what we were talking about? You are a smart fellow, leave the Trump diatribes to Sonhouse
Growth under Trump was no better than in Obama's second term even before COVID:
"Over the 12 quarters Trump has been President only four of them have had GDP growth over 3% and six of the quarter’s growth was 2.3% or lower. And for the past three quarters GDP growth has been 2.0%, 2.1% and 2.1%, respectively. This is a far cry from Trump’s claim that the economy could ...[text shortened]... umps-economic-growth-is-slower-than-obamas-last-3-years/#1c7ca1384fed
You believe in fairy tales.
29 Aug 20
@lemon-lime saidMott why do you think the Dems, and libs, and their brother rioters will go into the shadows. They will have a field day. It will not near be over, it will be the same, but will be called a 'Celebration'. Have any of the libs here responded to my query..."If Biden wins, will the conservatives/republicans riot in the streets?!?!???" They wont answer, cause they know we are not repribates.
I don't know about "reservations".
But I do remember, as a teenager in the 60's, seeing Al Capp cartoons where he depicts college students protesting, and carrying signs that said Students Wildly Indignant about Nearly Everything.
29 Aug 20
@sonhouse saidThanks to you and Suzi for verifying my first prediction:
@lemon-lime
The one I posted is the real platform of the republican party.
• The left pump themselves up with false narratives.
Never mind anything we actually say.
Your fertile imaginations are more than adequate for filling in both sides of an argument.
@averagejoe1 saidWhen you tell lies about Trump's record, don't expect people to ignore them.
Thanks for the Trump regurgitation. Weren't we on another subject, about the beauty of socialism...equality of the people under socialism (different than that of the Socialists themselves), the takeover and production of cell phones by the government (what a laugh). Everybody doing the exact same amount of work (hahaha), taskmasters being sure no one complained about t ...[text shortened]... isnt that what we were talking about? You are a smart fellow, leave the Trump diatribes to Sonhouse
No, we weren't talking about your ignorant ideas about what the "socialism" that Bernie and AOC envision would entail. I see no reason to waste time with such idiotic blatherings which have no relation to reality.
@no1marauder saidUhhh, what did you say?
When you tell lies about Trump's record, don't expect people to ignore them.
No, we weren't talking about your ignorant ideas about what the "socialism" that Bernie and AOC envision would entail. I see no reason to waste time with such idiotic blatherings which have no relation to reality.
Marauder against a wall everyone, bailing out
29 Aug 20
@lemon-lime said"Feritile Imaginations", I like that one. Note over the next 60 days how all of their narratives(?) start shifting and getting contradictory, seemingly at wits end, reaching for straws
Thanks to you and Suzi for verifying my first prediction:
• The left pump themselves up with false narratives.
Never mind anything we actually say.
Your fertile imaginations are more than adequate for filling in both sides of an argument.
29 Aug 20
@averagejoe1 saidIt's going to be a loooooong 60 days.
"Feritile Imaginations", I like that one. Note over the next 60 days how all of their narratives(?) start shifting and getting contradictory, seemingly at wits end, reaching for straws
30 Aug 20
@averagejoe1 saidIf you want to talk about a real "communism-socialism schism" here's the words of Mikhail Bakunin from about 150 years ago:
Did we ever agree on the communism socialism schism
"I hate Communism because it is the negation of liberty and because humanity is for me unthinkable without liberty. I am not a Communist, because Communism concentrates and swallows up in itself for the benefit of the State all the forces of society, because it inevitably leads to the concentration of property in the hands of the State, whereas I want the abolition of the State, the final eradication of the principle of authority and the patronage proper to the State, which under the pretext of moralizing and civilizing men has hitherto only enslaved, persecuted, exploited and corrupted them. I want to see society and collective or social property organized from below upwards, by way of free association, not from above downwards, by means of any kind of authority whatsoever."
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Mikhail_Bakunin
30 Aug 20
@earl-of-trumps saidIncluding the abolition of the State and of capitalism.
"I hate Communism" - the man has some good ideas!