@my2sons saidLet not your heart be troubled, the market obviously knows who will preside over the next 4 years. With what is going to go on 'in the streets!", I sure would not want Trump's job. But, he is the best man in America for it.
My 401K is hoping for a Trump win.
Everyone, realize that he is the bulwark between liberty and Socialism. The only thing between us and them.
Want some fun? Get a liberal (who will vote socialist) to explain if there can be liberty under socialism. i.e., can they coexist. I have never really asked it here, because the liberals muddle their answers so. Sad, as Suzianne likes to say.
@averagejoe1 saidWho stands between liberty and Fascism?
Let not your heart be troubled, the market obviously knows who will preside over the next 4 years. With what is going to go on 'in the streets!", I sure would not want Trump's job. But, he is the best man in America for it.
Everyone, realize that he is the bulwark between liberty and Socialism. The only thing between us and them.
Want some fun? Get a liberal (w ...[text shortened]... really asked it here, because the liberals muddle their answers so. Sad, as Suzianne likes to say.
Certainly not Putin's lapdog, Trump.
@averagejoe1 saidThe "biggest, most beautiful" amazing things!
Not into adnauseum,, you know full well that he has accomplished amazing things, see the list, and then start writing adnausum about Congress......I am saying there is a list somewhere in the cloud showing his success. I am not going to read them anymore, and neither are you. Both of us are looking to the future , I assume. What do you think about the future, which is the title of this thread?
01 Sep 20
@suzianne saidWell, he could use words like 'Dark', one of Biden's. Biden does not exactly inspire people, does he. I think his platform is George Floyd and Trump. Not much for a voter to sink their teeth into. Have you heard Trump inspire people.? Oh yes, you obviously have, as you parrot his positiveness above. Let's see......positive, or dark..... Pick one.
The "biggest, most beautiful" amazing things!
@sonhouse saidOh, okay... I get it now.
@lemon-lime
The one I posted is the real platform of the republican party.
Secret platform, hidden agenda... that sort of thing.
Sorry it took me so long to understand what you and suzianne were talking about.
@averagejoe1 saidThere were 9 national polls released today, 8 from surveys after the RNC Convention. The result is that Biden's lead is back up to 7.2% in the RCP average. https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_biden-6247.html#polls
Liberal comment, indeed. You interject legislation into my point which mentioned Trump accomplishments, of which there were about 100. I did not mention legislation. But go ahead with that, but as you suggest that I might not be aware, are you aware of the polls or whatever..... they are going up for Trump now. There was no bump after the convention, but Trump has had ...[text shortened]...
Would you please start a thread about Trump’s Bump’... I’ve got some stuff to do this afternoon!
538, which had Biden with a slightly bigger lead than RCP on August 27th. has the race now at Biden 50.3% Trump 42.9%. This is about where they had the race in early June. https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/national/
So any "bump" Trump received was small at best.
@lemon-lime saidI haven't followed this spat, but if Sonhouse is in it, I can TELL you what he is talking about. If I asked the forum for a recipe for rice pudding, he would respond about Trump.
Oh, okay... I get it now.
Secret platform, hidden agenda... that sort of thing.
Sorry it took me so long to understand what you and suzianne were talking about.
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@suzianne saidCan there be liberty under socialism? Can they co-exist?
Who stands between liberty and Fascism?
Certainly not Putin's lapdog, Trump.
@averagejoe1 saidWell DUH!
I haven't followed this spat, but if Sonhouse is in it, I can TELL you what he is talking about. If I asked the forum for a recipe for rice pudding, he would respond about Trump.
"rice pudding" is code for what Trump thinks China is trying to do to our brains with that STUPID virus.
Trump isn't fooling ANYONE with his secret thoughts and... and his HAIR!
03 Sep 20
@averagejoe1 saidYes it’s called ‘democratic socialism’ or a Socialist Democracy it’s not rocket science as long as a system includes a truly democratic election at regular intervals then you have liberty and if your not happy with what the majority of your fellow citizens have decided you could always leave.
Can there be liberty under socialism? Can they co-exist?
@kevcvs57 saidLet's look at this, and what you call it is irrelevant.
Yes it’s called ‘democratic socialism’ or a Socialist Democracy it’s not rocket science as long as a system includes a truly democratic election at regular intervals then you have liberty and if your not happy with what the majority of your fellow citizens have decided you could always leave.
Socialism: Social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole. Marx said it is a transition from capitalism to communism. I guess we can agree on the Webster definition?
Liberty: The state of being free within society from oppressive restrictions by authority on one's way of life, behavior or political views.
The socialism ';way of life' flies right in the face of the life you and I would like to lead, a life of freedom, freedom from govt control, regulations, etc.
So, all of you who are going to vote for socialism, and you most certainly are (unless you are like me and always lie to pollsters), are ready to give up liberty. I said it, and I'm glad.
@moonbus saidTrump committed a crime under North Carolina law by soliciting people to vote twice in that State. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/09/03/nc-elections-illegal-vote-twice-after-trump-comment/5702513002/
If the election is tampered with, there could be a disputed result. So, who is attempting to tamper with the election? Trump himself. Today it is reported that he is inciting voters to commit vote fraud (to 'test' the system).
https://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2020-54011022
@moonbus saidWhen a racer at Daytona tests his engine (before the race), he is doing it to be sure it works right, so that at the end , the best car (presidential candidate?) wins. He can't complain that he was not allowed to be sure the system (his motor) worked correctly. Wouldn't Biden welcome this? Am I missing something??
If the election is tampered with, there could be a disputed result. So, who is attempting to tamper with the election? Trump himself. Today it is reported that he is inciting voters to commit vote fraud (to 'test' the system).
https://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2020-54011022
This is the same thing, although it is tested actually during the race. But, it is being tested, so that at the end of the race, the judges will know that all of the testing was done properly. I could fo on about driver A putting sugar in the gas tax of driver B, but you get my drift.
Finally, a post that everyone can understand and agree with!!!!!!