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About 2 months out: Who will win, and why

About 2 months out: Who will win, and why

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Philokalia

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I think that Pres. Trump will likely win, but I honestly believe that it will come down to the last two or three weeks of the campaigns.

I hate providing a qualified answer like that, but it is the only rational thing to do in this situation.

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@philokalia said
I think that Pres. Trump will likely win, but I honestly believe that it will come down to the last two or three weeks of the campaigns.
Do you want him to win?

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I predict a riot.

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@earl-of-trumps said
It is obvious and so what? Bobby Fischer was a totally neurotic egomaniac too.

As long as he gets the job done. That's all that counts in my mind.
Bobby didn’t have control of a nuclear arsenal. If Bobby made a mistake, it meant he took second prize in a tournament instead first prize. When Trump makes a mistake, 170,000 people die who shouldn’t have.

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@moonbus said
It surprises me that you do not sense the slightest danger here. Trump is a “swashbuckler” a “strong man” you say. It is all too obvious that both the Senate and Barr are Trump’s puppies. Just take out the space between “strong” and “man” and that is what Trump actually aspires to be. A strongman head of state, who rejects any oversight, with a rubber-stamp parliament and a ...[text shortened]... d checks and balances. Trump has systematically undermined both oversight and the separation powers.
Strong man, like your wonderful father...Strong Man. Not 'strongman'. Stalin was a strongman. See the diff.

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@divegeester said
I predict a riot.
If Trump wins, a riot will ensue, that will run on for four years. I have bought a remote place to have in case he wins. If he loses, I may move there anyway.

If Biden wins, you fellers can rest easy....we probably will not tear up even a piece of paper. And not likely to walk in the street with a sign that says something that we want people to read. You know, the candy ass stuff.

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@no1marauder said
It isn't a moot point when your point was that all that Trump needed to win was to have Fox News convince White America to vote for him. That just isn't sufficient anymore.
No....I said Trump needs Fox News to convince white America. My point was that Trump isn't masterminding his campaign, he won because of the efforts of right-wing media, and stays afloat because of the efforts of others. This is what I mean when I said Trump relies on far more intelligent people.

Trump will not get himself reelected and didn't get himself elected the first time. We can't look at Trump's efforts, we have to look around him (Fox News, the Republican-controlled Senate, governors of red states, etc.). Don't look at Trump as a measure of reelection, look at what the GOP is doing: voter suppression, spreading propaganda, etc. If Trump is to win, this is what will get him elected.

Right now, I don't think the efforts of the GOP will succeed. Unlike when Hillary ran, Dems and even Republicans are fired up at the idea of Trump losing, regardless how bad the Dem nominee is. 'But we still need to be watchful; don't look at Trump, pay attention to the curtain behind him; that's how we should judge whether or not Trump will win.

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@vivify said
No....I said Trump needs Fox News to convince white America. My point was that Trump isn't masterminding his campaign, he won because of the efforts of right-wing media, and stays afloat because of the efforts of others. This is what I mean when I said Trump relies on far more intelligent people.

Trump will not get himself reelected and didn't get himself elected the f ...[text shortened]... , pay attention to the curtain behind him; that's how we should judge whether or not Trump will win.
Vivify makes good points on the best way to attain socialism in the United States of America. Funny to have that in the same sentence!

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@moonbus said
Bobby didn’t have control of a nuclear arsenal. If Bobby made a mistake, it meant he took second prize in a tournament instead first prize. When Trump makes a mistake, 170,000 people die who shouldn’t have.
Must've missed something, are you saying he DID make such a mistake, that caused 170K deaths?

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@suzianne said
I'm gonna guess you're not wasting much time watching the RNC, either, then.
I don't know about that. But I won't be reading Joe's garbage. He's a sick man.

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@AverageJoe1
Of course you are blind to the fact Trump is a failure as a leader.
He passed off the Covid crisis to the states rather than starting a federal response, saying he is not the states parts clerk or words to that effect.
That ALONE is a reason to kick his sorry arse out come November.
But all you can do is spout the Trumpite line that he saved millions of lives by stopping flights.
The problem with that argument is the flight stops were announced two weeks in advance which meant the ones wanting in just chose different countries to enter, like Toronto first THEN Kennedy or Mexico City THEN Chigago.

He stopped NOTHING, a worthless gesture he touts as if he was the savior of the human race.

That is a joke, he only saves Donald Trump and nobody else.

All the cases of his corruption I posted here and all you can do is poo poo all of it as if none of that matters.
I can see 100% if all that was on the head of Obama you would be screaming to the top of your lungs, LOCK HIM UP.

Prove me otherwise.
Answer me this: Why is the US considered a pariah in the eyes of the rest of the world?

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@sonhouse said
@AverageJoe1
Of course you are blind to the fact Trump is a failure as a leader.
He passed off the Covid crisis to the states rather than starting a federal response, saying he is not the states parts clerk or words to that effect.
That ALONE is a reason to kick his sorry arse out come November.
But all you can do is spout the Trumpite line that he saved millions of live ...[text shortened]... otherwise.
Answer me this: Why is the US considered a pariah in the eyes of the rest of the world?
Envy, I guess. Think pre-covid? I figure we were storming over all the other countries. Tell me I am wrong, and then answer my earlier question...Why does the Trump platform not ask for gobs of money to run the country for the next 4 years, when at the same time, today, Biden is asking for $3Trillion for god-knows-what? Man, if we ever had a choice, this is it.

Pelosi ('We should'nt have a debate'😉 and Hillary ("Dont concede, Joe!"😉 see the writing on the wall. You fellers go out and get your posters before there is a run on them. Aaarrgghh, more walking in the street. You buy posters, I buy Apple and Micorsoft. Not too sure about Tesla, taking money off the table. Think of the posters that could by.

I truly dont mean to sound like a smarty, but you folks dont give a guy much room. How can I ferret a few points out of so much Hate and Anger. As to Trump being a 'divider', just his existence causes that, because Libs force it each day. I am a nice person!!!

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@averagejoe1 said
Strong man, like your wonderful father...Strong Man. Not 'strongman'. Stalin was a strongman. See the diff.
Clarence Henderson, a civil rights pioneer, says Trump has done more for blacks in 4 years than Joe has done in 50. Clarence is a black man. Says BLM is not a civil rights movement, it is a Marxist movement.

I'm just the messenger.

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@AverageJoe1

And you NEVER answer point by point my charges of corruption of your god king.

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@sonhouse said
@AverageJoe1

And you NEVER answer point by point my charges of corruption of your god king.
Must have been in one of your diatribes or soliloquies? I do have a life, can't read manifestos that are so long. Send me one of the charges of corruption and the findings, by what authority, with regard to such charge. Dont bore us all with bankrupting his companies (I am a businessman and bankruptcy is just a tool, I have clients who have utilized it), and stuff like that. Just documented and adjudicated charges.

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