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@vivify said
Israeli evictions also include East Jerusalem, which is part of the West Bank and therefore, Palestinian territory:

https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-jerusalem-old-city-evictions-east-c53ae70f2fa76e4b1f4b528bca4ff35e
Will have a read and reply soon.

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@vivify said
Israeli evictions also include East Jerusalem, which is part of the West Bank and therefore, Palestinian territory:

https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-jerusalem-old-city-evictions-east-c53ae70f2fa76e4b1f4b528bca4ff35e
Looks like Palestinians squatting in a home owned by Jews, and the court evicted them. Jerusalem is fully under The State of Israel.

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@rajk999 said
Looks like Palestinians squatting in a home owned by Jews, and the court evicted them. Jerusalem is fully under The State of Israel.
Nations can't make laws that apply to foreign territories.

East Jerusalem was annexed by Israel; therefore the evictions are illegal under international law. It would be like Russia evicting Ukrainians from Crimea.

Israeli courts have no jurisdiction on Palestinian territory.


@vivify said
Nations can't make laws that apply to foreign territories.

East Jerusalem was annexed by Israel; therefore the evictions are illegal under international law. It would be like Russia evicting Ukrainians from Crimea.

Israeli courts have no jurisdiction on Palestinian territory.
Is flying in with powered engines strapped to your back and indiscriminately killing anyone you see against international law?

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@vivify said
Nations can't make laws that apply to foreign territories.

East Jerusalem was annexed by Israel; therefore the evictions are illegal under international law. It would be like Russia evicting Ukrainians from Crimea.

Israeli courts have no jurisdiction on Palestinian territory.
Countries lose land in time of war. It is also a recognized and accepted part of conflict, that is happens. In the case of Gaza right now, they are going to lose Gaza. First of all they are the aggressors, using a piece of land to terrorize their neighbours. They are about to be evicted and annexed. In the case of East Jerusalem, Israel annexed it after the 1967 6-Day War. It is an inevitable part of war.

If you dont want to lose what you have, then there are a couple things to do
- work on peace
- stop using terrorist tactics
- learn to fight and win.

Apparently the Palestinians have not understood this. I guess they never will.

East Jerusalem belongs to the Jews.


@vivify said
If people illegally broke into your home and forced your family out causing them to be homeless....isn't that also the act of bad guys?

Israel has been doing that long before Oct 7th. If Hamas tried force families and their children out of their homes....would Israel be justified in defending their homes with force in your opinion?
I read this post from Vivify on page 4. The answer is yes, if someone breaks into my rightful home, being legally occupied by my family, they are bad guys.
He follows that Israel is doing this. If some property is legally occupied by a family, Israel would be wrong to kick them out.
So, the key phrase in each scenario is 'legally occupied'.
So, Vivify who never closes his posts, needs to finish his post by telling us the Status of the occupancy of the people Israel kicks out. Are they trespassers or invaders like the Mexicans we have, or what? I really would be able to respond if he would give us all the facts.

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@rajk999 said
Countries lose land in time of war. It is also a recognized and accepted part of conflict, that is happens. In the case of Gaza right now, they are going to lose Gaza. First of all they are the aggressors, using a piece of land to terrorize their neighbours. They are about to be evicted and annexed. In the case of East Jerusalem, Israel annexed it after the 1967 6-Day W ...[text shortened]... stinians have not understood this. I guess they never will.

East Jerusalem belongs to the Jews.
Libs have a mental block when discussing wars, the spoils, the ravages, of war. If they had it their way, every country should give up all that they have to all of the other countries. Absolute unequivocal Nirvana!!!!!

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@rajk999 said
Countries lose land in time of war. It is also a recognized and accepted part of conflict
No, it isn't "accepted".

All members of the United Nations signed the Geneva Convention treaty regarding wars.
All members, including Israel:

https://treaties.un.org/pages/showdetails.aspx?objid=0800000280158b1a

Based on the Geneva Convention treaty which Israel itself signed, their actions on annexed land are both illegal and a war crime.

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@averagejoe1 said
I read this post from Vivify on page 4. The answer is yes, if someone breaks into my rightful home, being legally occupied by my family, they are bad guys.
He follows that Israel is doing this. If some property is legally occupied by a family, Israel would be wrong to kick them out.
So, the key phrase in each scenario is 'legally occupied'.
So, Vivify who never ...[text shortened]... he Mexicans we have, or what? I really would be able to respond if he would give us all the facts.
The West Bank, which includes East Jerusalem, is legally Palestinian.

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@vivify said
No, it isn't "accepted".

All members of the United Nations signed the Geneva Convention treaty regarding wars.
All members, including Israel:

https://treaties.un.org/pages/showdetails.aspx?objid=0800000280158b1a

Based on the Geneva Convention treaty which Israel itself signed, their actions on annexed land are both illegal and a war crime.
yeah,,,,,it is accepted. Gettin tiresome, Vivify

Don't make us spell it out, we do enough of that here.

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@vivify said
No, it isn't "accepted".

All members of the United Nations signed the Geneva Convention treaty regarding wars.
All members, including Israel:

https://treaties.un.org/pages/showdetails.aspx?objid=0800000280158b1a

Based on the Geneva Convention treaty which Israel itself signed, their actions on annexed land are both illegal and a war crime.
the Geneva conventions do not address "land"

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@averagejoe1 said
I read this post from Vivify on page 4. The answer is yes, if someone breaks into my rightful home, being legally occupied by my family, they are bad guys.
He follows that Israel is doing this. If some property is legally occupied by a family, Israel would be wrong to kick them out.
So, the key phrase in each scenario is 'legally occupied'.
So, Vivify who never ...[text shortened]... he Mexicans we have, or what? I really would be able to respond if he would give us all the facts.
hahahaha
The Vivify person, just above this post, posts some nonsense that has absolutely nothing to do with the issue I put before him in the post that I repeat here.

We have a child on the Forum. Note in your journals. You have my permission to avoid his foolishness.

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@mott-the-hoople said
the Geneva conventions do not address "land"
Funny how these libs write as though all countries are restricted by conventions and agreements, when in fact, like Hitler and Putin, can do anything they want to.
Libs don't want feelings to get hurt or some such. Difficult to wade through.

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@vivify said
No, it isn't "accepted".

All members of the United Nations signed the Geneva Convention treaty regarding wars.
All members, including Israel:

https://treaties.un.org/pages/showdetails.aspx?objid=0800000280158b1a

Based on the Geneva Convention treaty which Israel itself signed, their actions on annexed land are both illegal and a war crime.
A people who follow no law, no statutory law, no common law, no law of decency, who proceed to attack civilians in the most horrific manner killing women and children, raping and pillaging, kidnapping and doing all manner of evil to civilians ... are they in your opinion entitled to have the country responding to these attacks, follow these Geneva conventions, International Law or other UN guidelines?

No. This is why the international community do not bat an eyelid when Palestinians are getting clobbered and losing their land. The Jews are fighting an evil force, that the world secretly wants removed.

Nobody is going to force the Jews to follow any international law. Nobody is going to take Netanyahu to the International Criminal Court, because they are fighting criminals.

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@mott-the-hoople said
the Geneva conventions do not address "land"
It uses the word "territory" which is the same thing.

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