03 Sep 21
@Eladar
Yep, you clearly think you are immortal. We are supposed to give up childish selfishness when we turn adult and we learned to think about stuff like civil duty.
But that is meaningless to you. Your POV: Civic Duty, an oxymoron.
03 Sep 21
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@wildgrass saidWhat is the limiting principle there? If COVID had not come back, the vax rate would have kept falling until pretty much everyone who was going to get vaccinated was vaccinated. It took the very surge to get the vax rate to go up.
Right. But people were and are still getting vaccinated in Florida, and they could have waited until a higher percentage were vaccinated before lifting mask guidelines.
Within a population that has a low vaccine rate, wearing a mask in a store or school is a minor inconvenience (akin to a seatbelt or stop sign that mitigate but don't eliminate traffic fatalities) that should have been in place to minimize the "death peak" as you say.
Once everyone has had the chance to get vaccinated, it seems silly to keep restricting people waiting for the unwilling to go get vaccinated (which would not happen).
But I see you slipped in the word "guidelines" there. As long as they're voluntary, I have no problem with any of them. As I've said a dozen times, the only thing I'm against in this context is forcing my kids to wear masks for 8 hours a day while seated at their desks. If Wegmans has a policy that they want me to wear a mask while I shop for groceries for 10 minutes, I don't care one way or the other.
03 Sep 21
@sonhouse saidI will die, so will you. Getting the shot will not change that outcome.
@Eladar
Yep, you clearly think you are immortal. We are supposed to give up childish selfishness when we turn adult and we learned to think about stuff like civil duty.
But that is meaningless to you. Your POV: Civic Duty, an oxymoron.
03 Sep 21
@sh76 saidI did address your points.
Fled the forum? What are you talking about? I stop posting for a week or two here and there (I do have 2 jobs and 5 kids that consume some of my time, if that's okay with you), but I've never taken extended leaves of more than a few weeks.
Anyway, I see you've chosen to not address my points and take pot shots instead. That is your prerogative (and is unsurprising). As for t ...[text shortened]... ive my life and let my family do the same (fully vaxxed, of course), again, if that's okay with you.
Obviously you think your children avoiding being mildly inconvenienced is more important than someone else's life. I can't agree with those priorities.
03 Sep 21
@Eladar
That IS the problem. You think you are immortal.
You WILL catch covid with that thinking and you also don't even CONSIDER the nasty side effects, lung damage, organ damage, brain damage in a lot of cases.
But of COURSE since you are immortal you will NEVER have to deal with those issues.
Until you DO.
@sonhouse saidI may have already caught covid.
@Eladar
That IS the problem. You think you are immortal.
You WILL catch covid with that thinking and you also don't even CONSIDER the nasty side effects, lung damage, organ damage, brain damage in a lot of cases.
But of COURSE since you are immortal you will NEVER have to deal with those issues.
Until you DO.
My chances of death from covid are less than 1 in a thousand. I like those odds.
03 Sep 21
@no1marauder saidI hesitate to link because I think this far undersells the case against masking schoolchildren, but FWIW.
I did address your points.
Obviously you think your children avoiding being mildly inconvenienced is more important than someone else's life. I can't agree with those priorities.
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/09/school-mask-mandates-downside/619952/