20 Feb 05
Originally posted by NemesioI follow the inspired Word of God, not the traditions of men.
I see that you are an ill-informed anti-Catholic bigot
like RBHILL.
If you deny the importance of Mary, then you are a
heretic. Her actions are models for behavior, and
she was venerated, like the Disciples, since the
beginning of Christianity.
However, if a person prays to Mary, that person is are
a heretic. I am an organist in a Roman Catholic Church.
I assure you, they do not 'praise Mary.'
Nemesio
20 Feb 05
Originally posted by DarfiusGunna need a skeptic's opinion on this passage.
Exactly, and Job's description of the behemoth leaves little doubt that he was describing a dinosaur. I suppose skeptics will say he had access to the fossil record.
40:15 Behold now behemoth, which I made with thee; he eateth grass as an ox. 40:16 Lo now, his strength is in his loins, and his force is in the navel of his belly. 40:17 He moveth his t ...[text shortened]... Jordan into his mouth. 40:24 He taketh it with his eyes: his nose pierceth through snares.
20 Feb 05
A conversation between a thumper and a normal person:
Thumper: Hello
NP: Hello
Thumper: Do you accept the Bible as the Word of God and Jesus Christ as your personal savior?
NP: Well I am not really sure. There is a lot to think about and a lot of different beliefs to consider...
Thumper: Hmmmm.....YOU ARE SCREWED!!!!!!!!!! "The Lord God says you are screwed", John 3:24
NP: What? I don't understand what you are saying?
Thumper: "It is the will of God that I, his servant, repel anyone from any different point of view". Tony 2:19
NP: What are you talking about? I didn't say I don't believe it but I am just not sure.
Thumper: "Any of my children who attempt to think for themselves will be subjected to my legion of inbred robots preaching at them throughout their lifetime". Oscar 10:48
NP: Okay, I am leaving now.
Thumper: I will pray for you...HERETIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
20 Feb 05
Originally posted by NemesioWhat about the decription that I posted earlier about the leviathan, from Job?
These descriptions are concordant with contemporary descriptions
of the crocodile and hippopotamus. I can't remember which is
which, but the footnotes in most Bibles will point the way.
Nemesio
Nyxie
20 Feb 05
Originally posted by NyxieLeviathan and Behemoth are crocodile and hippopotamus,
What about the decription that I posted earlier about the leviathan, from Job?
Nyxie
but I can't remember which is which. The descriptions are
creative and adaptative (one breathes fire) but are concordant
with the very sorts of descriptions and pictures of these
creatures we find in non-Biblical sources.
Most Bible translations have footnotes for these two creatures
saying which is which.
Nemesio
20 Feb 05
Originally posted by NemesioI have to disagree here. Scales, breathes fire, smoke rises from it's nose. This is neither a crocodile, nor a hippo. I don't see why God would need to be creative or adaptive in his description. He could simply have just created a dragon to illustrate his point.
Leviathan and Behemoth are crocodile and hippopotamus,
but I can't remember which is which. The descriptions are
creative and adaptative (one breathes fire) but are concordant
with the very sorts of descriptions and pictures of these
creatures we find in non-Biblical sources.
Most Bible translations have footnotes for these two creatures
saying which is which.
Nemesio
Nyxie
20 Feb 05
Originally posted by NemesioSo the behemoth is a hippopotamus, eh?
Leviathan and Behemoth are crocodile and hippopotamus,
but I can't remember which is which. The descriptions are
creative and adaptative (one breathes fire) but are concordant
with the very sorts of descriptions and pictures of these
creatures we find in non-Biblical sources.
Most Bible translations have footnotes for these two creatures
saying which is which.
Nemesio
Explain to me why Job said the behemoth swung its tail like a cedar tree.
Have fun with that.
20 Feb 05
Originally posted by yevgenipI don't claim dragons do exist. I claim they were dinosaurs and that dinosaurs walked the earth when men did. And if this is the case, then it lends credence to the idea that the Bible is the inspired Word of God.
Well, lets say dragons do exist - then what?
And if it is, then those who sin and do not atone for it through accepting Jesus as their Lord and Savior will not make it to heaven.
20 Feb 05
Originally posted by DarfiusNot even the cute dragon from Shrek I? Or Puff the Magic Dragon? They don't get into heaven?
I don't claim dragons do exist. I claim they were dinosaurs and that dinosaurs walked the earth when men did. And if this is the case, then it lends credence to the idea that the Bible is the inspired Word of God.
And if it is, then those who sin and do not atone for it through accepting Jesus as their Lord and Savior will not make it to heaven.