Originally posted by StarValleyWyWhat prevents you from accepting Him, Star?
What kind of love?
The love I now give every day? I am a poor man. I earn a good lot of money but have CHOSEN to be poor. I give it all away.
So?
I do that not for god. I do it for those who need it. I have plenty.
Go out into a september night alone. In the mountains of Wyoming. At about ten degrees F. One gets a real appreciation of god. T ...[text shortened]... on't you? Just to know god? You want to know him, so you give yourself over to him. Don't you?
You must know that He loves you.
Originally posted by DarfiusThat's fine. I am worth loving.
What prevents you from accepting Him, Star?
You must know that He loves you.
What gives him the right to demand "worship"?
I will love the myth of goodness.
If the silly turd actually wants "worship" then he knows where I live. Let him show me how he deserves worship.
I don't worship easily. I want to worship those who care. Those who face the night on their own. Those who can stand up to the bully.
I don't worship easlily.
Why does a god so intent on being worshiped hide from me?
Originally posted by StarValleyWyIt is impossible to please God, Faith is what matters not worship.
That's fine. I am worth loving.
What gives him the right to demand "worship"?
I will love the myth of goodness.
If the silly turd actually wants "worship" then he knows where I live. Let him show me how he deserves worship.
I don't worship easily. I want to worship those who care. Those who face the night on their own. Those who can st ...[text shortened]... bully.
I don't worship easlily.
Why does a god so intent on being worshiped hide from me?
Originally posted by StarValleyWyHe doesn't. You hide from Him. He knocks on the door of your heart.
That's fine. I am worth loving.
What gives him the right to demand "worship"?
I will love the myth of goodness.
If the silly turd actually wants "worship" then he knows where I live. Let him show me how he deserves worship.
I don't worship easily. I want to worship those who care. Those who face the night on their own. Those who can st ...[text shortened]... bully.
I don't worship easlily.
Why does a god so intent on being worshiped hide from me?
Originally posted by DarfiusYea. He does.
He doesn't. You hide from Him. He knocks on the door of your heart.
And it is so silly. I mean, I live right here in the city. I am in the book. I go out alone where he could talk and he doesn't talk.
That's another thing. Why can't his big bad ass just talk to us?
What makes a damned myth so powerful as to be able to ignore the stupid peasants that bring him grist?
I dunno. But I'm willin' to learn. If the stupid bastard ever can get up enough energy to talk to me.
Originally posted by StarValleyWyHe talks to you by the very fact that you exist. That you think. That you feel.
Yea. He does.
And it is so silly. I mean, I live right here in the city. I am in the book. I go out alone where he could talk and he doesn't talk.
That's another thing. Why can't his big bad ass just talk to us?
What makes a damned myth so powerful as to be able to ignore the stupid peasants that bring him grist?
I dunno. But I'm willin' to learn. If the stupid bastard ever can get up enough energy to talk to me.
He talks to you through RBHILL and I.
You're just not listening.
Originally posted by DarfiusMaybe I am.
He talks to you by the very fact that you exist. That you think. That you feel.
He talks to you through RBHILL and I.
You're just not listening.
I do hear your intense need.
Maybe you are right. I need to repent again and let go of my almighty conceit.
Sorry. You are probably right. You are the one who needs him. It is wrong of me to fight you. I am sorry.
Really. I get carried away with myself on occasion and forget that I am just here as a guest of the process. Sorry.
Originally posted by StarValleyWyThere is nothing that needs forgiving from me, my friend.
Maybe I am.
I do hear your intense need.
Maybe you are right. I need to repent again and let go of my almighty conceit.
Sorry. You are probably right. You are the one who needs him. It is wrong of me to fight you. I am sorry.
Really. I get carried away with myself on occasion and forget that I am just here as a guest of the process. Sorry.
Would you mind telling me why God isn't for you? If it's too personal, I'm sorry.
Originally posted by DarfiusNo. You don't need to apologize.
There is nothing that needs forgiving from me, my friend.
Would you mind telling me why God isn't for you? If it's too personal, I'm sorry.
My father took the belt to me, my mother and my five sibs at least once a week until I was 16. But he wasn't a slave to the belt. He sometimes used his Remington and he sometimes used his Bowie knife. He was a torture master with no hangups.
I used to walk alone into the dark when I was three. Miles and miles just to get away. I prayed to God as all good mormon kids did. I know god. I did get an answer.
"Sorry kid. I only created the world. The ass hole creeps I didn't do. If you suffer, then do something. Get out from it and don't suffer."
So that is what I do. I learned. I was there. I know evil. I know what overcomes it.
So?
Originally posted by StarValleyWyI don't even want to belittle my sorrow for you with words on a screen.
No. You don't need to apologize.
My father took the belt to me, my mother and my five sibs at least once a week until I was 16. But he wasn't a slave to the belt. He sometimes used his Remington and he sometimes used his Bowie knife. He was a torture master with no hangups.
I used to walk alone into the dark when I was three. Miles and miles ju ...[text shortened]... "
So that is what I do. I learned. I was there. I know evil. I know what overcomes it.
So?
What your father did...God is all forgiving, but I have a harder time.
He was there, though, Star. He wanted to comfort you and He still wants to. I know when you're walking in the dark, and He doesn't reach out and hold you, it's so hard.
But He will reach out and hold us. When we sleep that long sleep, we wake up and He's there, making up for lost time.
And while we're here, He sends His spirit to caress us when we call. Jesus promised to send the Holy Spirit while He was away and he has. I felt Him even when I grieved for you. I felt Him when I prayed for you. I'm sure He will help you for both our sakes.
Will you give him another chance, Star? Just one more? Will you tell Him you accept what His son did for you? What Jesus did for you? Just accept it and say He is Lord. That small step of faith will open up so many doors. You WILL feel him in your life, this I promise.
God bless you, my friend. If I could ease your sorrow myself I would. But He surely can.
Originally posted by DarfiusGood.
I don't even want to belittle my sorrow for you with words on a screen.
What your father did...God is all forgiving, but I have a harder time.
He was there, though, Star. He wanted to comfort you and He still wants to. I know when you're walking in the dark, and He doesn't reach out and hold you, it's so hard.
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God bless you, my friend. If I could ease your sorrow myself I would. But He surely can.
Maybe he will do my tax form this year.
That will do.
All I want is a little acknowledgement of the efforts of a lot of better people than me.
That is in a real holding pattern.