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@no1marauder said
I'd ask you like I asked Wajoma to list your educational and/or occupational training in communicable diseases to make such claims which are contrary to what the relevant experts have done.

Of course, no action is without some miniscule risk to others; if I cross the street, there's a remote possibility that a car might have to swerve to avoid me and thus hit a tree or ...[text shortened]... cans a month is a different kettle of fish and surely alters the moral calculus to reasonable minds.
"But minimizing the risk of spreading a contagious disease which was killing up to...add fictional number"

https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/589344-fauci-omicron-will-infect-just-about-everybody/

Why do you want to slow the spread if everyone will get it anyway? Explain to me how prolonging the inevitable saves lives. You seem to be in a time warp where you think hospitals are in danger of being burdened with covid patients.

Newsflash: The pandemic is over!

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Mother torn away from her toddler by thugs, not a mask in sight.

Was it ever about your health?

Porno for shag doody.

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Uhuh. Moron.

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@no1marauder said
I'm soooooooooo sick of you COVID deniers pretending there's something unique and/or shocking about governments mandating reasonable precautions recommended by public health officials in the midst of an outbreak of a deadly, contagious disease.

You're full of crap to act like some nonexistent "right" to endanger others by reckless, selfish individual decision making wa ...[text shortened]... your life,". That's about as valid as your ranting against public health measures during a pandemic.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/woman-with-tuberculosis-to-be-arrested-unless-she-gets-treatment/ar-AA186ZUj

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@metal-brain said
The science didn't change. They told the truth the first time just as I have been saying all along.

https://rumble.com/v289nyq-masks-do-nothing-to-stop-covid-and-they-knew-it-all-along-says-new-study.html

Will you get an apology from them?
Here’s why your bs study is bs

“The analysis is flawed because it compares apples to oranges. The paper mixes together studies that were conducted in different environments with different transmission risks. It also combines studies where masks were worn part of the time with studies where masks are worn all the time. And it blends studies that looked at Covid-19 with studies that looked at influenza.

If apples work and oranges don’t, but your analysis mixes them together, you may come to the false conclusion that apples don’t work. Out of the 78 papers analyzed in the review, only two actually studied masking during the Covid-19 pandemic. And both of those found that masks did protect wearers from Covid-19. But these studies are drowned out by the greater number of studies on influenza included, where the benefit of masking is harder to detect because it’s a far less contagious virus than Covid-19.

Even the authors themselves acknowledge in the paper: “The high risk of bias in the trials, variation in outcome measurement, and relatively low adherence with the interventions during the studies hampers drawing firm conclusions.”

The clear problems with the study did not stop loud voices from exaggerating its findings on large platforms. Bret Stephens proclaimed in the New York Times that “The Mask Mandates Did Nothing. Will Any Lessons Be Learned?” And Tom Jefferson, first author of the Cochrane paper, asserted in an interview: “There is just no evidence that [masks] make any difference. Full stop.”

Neither are objective nor reliable sources. Stephens once called global warming “mass hysteria” and claimed climate science had been “discredited”. Jefferson works for the Brownstone Institute, a Covid-19 misinformation group that is powered by dark money.”

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/feb/27/dont-believe-those-who-claim-science-proves-masks-dont-work?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

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@metal-brain said
"But minimizing the risk of spreading a contagious disease which was killing up to...add fictional number"

https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/589344-fauci-omicron-will-infect-just-about-everybody/

Why do you want to slow the spread if everyone will get it anyway? Explain to me how prolonging the inevitable saves lives. You seem to be in a time warp where you thin ...[text shortened]... hospitals are in danger of being burdened with covid patients.

Newsflash: The pandemic is over!
Duh to allow the health services of any given population to cope with patient numbers.
Jesus you people are soooo freaking stupid.
News flash no it’s not and it could mutate into something more deadly again at any minute.
P.s I get my pneumonia jag at the end of the month 🖕

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@kevcvs57 said
Duh to allow the health services of any given population to cope with patient numbers.
Jesus you people are soooo freaking stupid.
News flash no it’s not and it could mutate into something more deadly again at any minute.
P.s I get my pneumonia jag at the end of the month 🖕
That is not an issue anymore. Jesus you are soooo freaking stupid.

The pandemic is over!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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@kevcvs57 said
Here’s why your bs study is bs

“The analysis is flawed because it compares apples to oranges. The paper mixes together studies that were conducted in different environments with different transmission risks. It also combines studies where masks were worn part of the time with studies where masks are worn all the time. And it blends studies that looked at Covid-19 with st ...[text shortened]... sfree/2023/feb/27/dont-believe-those-who-claim-science-proves-masks-dont-work?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
He didn't prove anything. He is merely slandering and nothing more.
Show me what he proved wrong in the peer reviewed study. I already proved him wrong for claiming natural immunity was not good enough. He discredited himself.

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New York police ask customers to unmask when entering stores due to crime.

Masks do have their uses.

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@metal-brain said
He didn't prove anything. He is merely slandering and nothing more.
Show me what he proved wrong in the peer reviewed study. I already proved him wrong for claiming natural immunity was not good enough. He discredited himself.
The article tears your ‘peer’ reviewed study to shreds.
You do who the ‘peers’ of a conspiracy theorist anti mask / vaccine nut job are, yes that’s right they by definition conspiracy theorist anti mask / vaccine nut jobs.

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@kevcvs57 said
The article tears your ‘peer’ reviewed study to shreds.
You do who the ‘peers’ of a conspiracy theorist anti mask / vaccine nut job are, yes that’s right they by definition conspiracy theorist anti mask / vaccine nut jobs.
Link please to the M90 mask you claim to wear.

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@wajoma said
Link please to the M90 mask you claim to wear.
Google it 💩 for brains I don’t take orders from Qanon incel fascists.

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@kevcvs57 said
Google it 💩 for brains I don’t take orders from Qanon incel fascists.
It wasn't an order kev. It was an invitation, I have tried to google it and now soothfast has kindly given of his time to search for it too. I think it's safe say that it is not an M90 mask of any description, you've made a mistake, everyone does make a mistake occasionally. Let's put 'M90" behind us, can you post a link to the mask you have worn.

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@kevcvs57 said
The article tears your ‘peer’ reviewed study to shreds.
You do who the ‘peers’ of a conspiracy theorist anti mask / vaccine nut job are, yes that’s right they by definition conspiracy theorist anti mask / vaccine nut jobs.
That is a lie. All of his claims are false. Here is proof he was wrong about natural immunity. He discredited himself.

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/natural-immunity-protective-covid-vaccine-severe-illness-rcna71027

Slander is not prove of anything. He is spreading misinformation and I proved it.

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@shavixmir said
Uhuh. Moron.
My position has always been the masks work given a long list of specific criteria, whether handling, standards, training or the activity.

And if ever there was an example of how they were misused by untrained know nothing ijits please refer to the reigning mask ijit himself kev for that example.

kev said

"My m90 is hard framed and it has a filter vent on the front"

That 'filter vent on the front' is a non-return valve.

When you inhale the valve closes so that you can be sure that everything you inhale (if the mask has been fit tested) is filtered through the mask material. When it comes to the exhale the valve opens allowing your exhale to exit the mask freely i.e. the mask works in one direction only. Not only does your breath exit freely, because the opening is restricted your exhale is accelerated, a basic physical principle, same volume through a smaller opening**. If you have some kind of virus these masks turn into a virus loud hailer, for 2 years kev has been spraying everyone with his virus loud hailer mask.

** I concede that the valve has a limit and that when the limit is reached some of the exhale will be forced back through the filter. But the point remains any restriction and your exhale takes the easiest route, but that route is no longer as open, your breath and all the droplets you're so concerned about are accelerated and thus travel further. Thanks mask zombies.

I sure hope none of you other mask evangelists used a mask of similar design.

Bonus: Here's a cut and paste ready to go for the mask retards

On the 8/3/23 wajoma said "...masks work..."

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