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@no1marauder said
You would think that a minimum level of decency would require one to try to prevent spreading a deadly, contagious disease.
Are you still masking whenever you go to the supermarket, museum or bar?

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@sh76 said
Are you still masking whenever you go to the supermarket, museum or bar?
No, the experts in the health field say that is no longer necessary. I take their advice; I'm not a COVID denier as you have become nor do I pretend on the internet to be more knowledgeable than those who have spent decades in the field like you and the other cranks do here.

I'll also double vaxxed, boosted and had COVID, so I guess I'm about as protected as I can be. Still I had cold symptoms this week and promptly took a home test just to make sure I didn't have the virus.

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@no1marauder said
No, the experts in the health field say that is no longer necessary.
Or to put it another way: The control freaks caved to the growing backlash from ordinary people seeing through their BS.

I believe every person now knows first hand or at most second hand someone who has either had a bad reaction to the juice or died suddenly and suspiciously.

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@wajoma said
Or to put it another way: The control freaks caved to the growing backlash from ordinary people seeing through their BS.

I believe every person now knows first hand or at most second hand someone who has either had a bad reaction to the juice or died suddenly and suspiciously.
Like I said, an internet crank pretending he knows more than medical experts.

Or maybe I'm wrong; perhaps you could inform us of your educational, training and employment background in the medical field esp. in the area of infectious and communicable diseases.

We'll wait.

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@no1marauder said
Like I said, an internet crank pretending he knows more than medical experts.
Never denied covid, never said masks don't work. Some masks work given specific conditions of which 99.99% of the mask zombies didn't obey which at best rendered them useless, at worst did more harm than good.

If you were true to this:

"You would think that a minimum level of decency would require one to try to prevent spreading a deadly, contagious disease."

1/ Then you'd stay home and order food online.
2/ Stay home and work online only
3/ Abandon the stupid rag and wear a full hazmat suit with fully self contained BA, you would conduct a fit test every time to ensure the suit and mask were sealed.

But you didn't do these things because it was more about a pointless self righteous virtue signal and you don't get to show off the stupid face rag if you stay home.

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@wajoma said
Never denied covid, never said masks don't work. Some masks work given specific conditions of which 99.99% of the mask zombies didn't obey which at best rendered them useless, at worst did more harm than good.

If you were true to this:

"You would think that a minimum level of decency would require one to try to prevent spreading a deadly, contagious disease."
...[text shortened]... ess self righteous virtue signal and you don't get to show off the stupid face rag if you stay home.
Nope. I followed the advice of medical experts and none of them said it was necessary to adopt the extreme measures you, as an internet crank, suggest.

EDIT: I edited the above post to give you the chance to inform us of the basis for your expert opinions on these matters.

You could also point out the articles you have had published in the relevant medical areas covered by professional, peer reviewed journals.

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What’s actually interesting about covid, masks and vaccinations is that the people down-playing the pandemic, who are anti-mask (for whatever absurd reason, but don’t whine about washing hands) and are anti-vaccination, are all from one side of the political spectrum.

So the concept of health, by health authorities and viral experts is a political concept.

A matter too complicated for the general public and politicians, is discussed by Fox news presenters, the likes of trump and MB.
All from the same political angle.

Very weird.

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@shavixmir said
What’s actually interesting about covid, masks and vaccinations is that the people down-playing the pandemic, who are anti-mask (for whatever absurd reason, but don’t whine about washing hands) and are anti-vaccination, are all from one side of the political spectrum.

So the concept of health, by health authorities and viral experts is a political concept.

A matter to ...[text shortened]... y Fox news presenters, the likes of trump and MB.
All from the same political angle.

Very weird.
Nothing complicated shag doody, you got scared of the wuflu, you want to appear self-righteous holier than thou with your stupid pointless rag go ahead.

The rag as worn by most people (statistically all) was at best - useless and at worst - did more harm than good. It may have stopped a few drops (these droplets being a tiny tiny % of your exhale) only for the wearer to play with it, lift it up and down, take it on and off then handle anything and everything around them. It at least should be fit tested every time and people with facial hair need to be buried up to their neck and stones thrown at them.

That's why there are no definitive stats proving their efficacy. It's all very well saying masks work, or masks don't work without mentioning 50 criteria on why they would or wouldn't work. 99.9% of adults did not use masks even halfway correctly, forcing them onto kids was child abuse (please don't cum in your panties at that thought)

There can be no doubt mask mandates did nothing to slow the spread.

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@wajoma said
Nothing complicated shag doody, you got scared of the wuflu, you want to appear self-righteous holier than thou with your stupid pointless rag go ahead.

The rag as worn by most people (statistically all) was at best - useless and at worst - did more harm than good. It may have stopped a few drops (these droplets being a tiny tiny % of your exhale) only for the wearer to ...[text shortened]... your panties at that thought)

There can be no doubt mask mandates did nothing to slow the spread.
Uhuh.

Wrong on every account.

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Masks work.

Mask mandates don't work.

Why do we need 12 pages of comments.

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@wildgrass said
Masks work.

Mask mandates don't work.

Why do we need 12 pages of comments.
What data supports such a claim? Here's a factoid relating to public school reopenings in Florida, Fall 2021:

"In districts such as Broward and Miami-Dade that began the school year with mask requirements, per capita COVID-19 case rates among students were 2.6 times lower than in districts that made masking optional. School districts without mask requirements had nearly twice as many student COVID-19 cases than districts that required masks."

https://news.yahoo.com/did-america-schools-open-safely-070817982.html

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@no1marauder said
What data supports such a claim? Here's a factoid relating to public school reopenings in Florida, Fall 2021:

"In districts such as Broward and Miami-Dade that began the school year with mask requirements, per capita COVID-19 case rates among students were 2.6 times lower than in districts that made masking optional. School districts without mask requirements had nearl ...[text shortened]... ricts that required masks."

https://news.yahoo.com/did-america-schools-open-safely-070817982.html
Do you want a graph showng cases going up after masks were mandated, you know there are plenty to choose from. It can be made to look like mask mandates caused cases to go up.

"How to :Lie with Statistics" Darrell Huff

Correlation is not causation, the oldest trick in the book.

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@no1marauder said
Nope. I followed the advice of medical experts and none of them said it was necessary to adopt the extreme measures you, as an internet crank, suggest.

EDIT: I edited the above post to give you the chance to inform us of the basis for your expert opinions on these matters.

You could also point out the articles you have had published in the relevant medical areas covered by professional, peer reviewed journals.
The medical experts lied to us.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(22)02465-5/fulltext

Natural immunity is superior to the gene vaccines. The mandates were stupid!

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@wajoma said
Do you want a graph showng cases going up after masks were mandated, you know there are plenty to choose from. It can be made to look like mask mandates caused cases to go up.

"How to :Lie with Statistics" Darrell Huff

Correlation is not causation, the oldest trick in the book.
He is in denial. It is all just a coincidence as far as he is concerned.
He will blame those that didn't mask up. He blames non conformists.

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@no1marauder said
No, the experts in the health field say that is no longer necessary. I take their advice; I'm not a COVID denier as you have become nor do I pretend on the internet to be more knowledgeable than those who have spent decades in the field like you and the other cranks do here.

I'll also double vaxxed, boosted and had COVID, so I guess I'm about as protected as I can be. ...[text shortened]... had cold symptoms this week and promptly took a home test just to make sure I didn't have the virus.
None of those stop transmission; they merely decrease it marginally. Unless you had it again in the interim, it was quite a while ago when you had covid; and being boosted also a while ago is again only a marginal decrease in your likelihood of spreading covid.

So your "minimum level of decency would require one to try to prevent spreading a deadly, contagious disease" is something you apparently only believe in partially. I also believe in it, partially. I would not have gone into a crowded area if I had cold symptoms in 2020.

Ergo, we're not discussing an issue of principle, just degree.

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