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Has Biden taken us closer to nuclear war?

Has Biden taken us closer to nuclear war?

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shavixmir
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@divegeester said
Biden is “thwarting” Putin by ordering this escalation whilst simultaneously closing the US embassy and withdrawing the personnel due to a subsequent significant threat of attack?

That’s an interesting perspective.
What’s that got to do with anything?

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@shavixmir said
What’s that got to do with anything?
I’m responding to and repeating what was said within the context of the US pulling out their Kiev embassy.

no1marauder
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@divegeester said
You’re talking to the wrong person marauder; it is spruce who seems to think there is a fourth option on how a war could end in addition to the three I listed. You ok to ask him or are you happy with the questions I’ve already put to him.
What I'm telling you is neither side feels like negotiations at this time. Nothing you have said changes that salient fact.

Biden's moves are to weaken Russia's position and strengthen Ukraine's so some concessions by the former would be offered. You don't seem to grasp that fairly obvious point.

spruce112358
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@divegeester said
Third time of asking …

Please feel free to expand upon your fourth way which a war can end without involving any of the three I’ve mentioned earlier.
It's better for you to work it out yourself. 😆

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@no1marauder said
What I'm telling you is neither side feels like negotiations at this time. Nothing you have said changes that salient fact.

Biden's moves are to weaken Russia's position and strengthen Ukraine's so some concessions by the former would be offered. You don't seem to grasp that fairly obvious point.
I haven’t suggested that they do want to negotiate, in fact I’ve said the opposite and that the war is unwinable.



I’m aware of what the message from the old guy is, thanks.

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@spruce112358 said
It's better for you to work it out yourself. 😆
Dodge noted.

Again.

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@divegeester said
I haven’t suggested that they do want to negotiate, in fact I’ve said the opposite and that the war is unwinable.



I’m aware of what the message from the old guy is, thanks.
Well, then you've changed your tune from your early posts in this thread.

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@no1marauder said
Well, then you've changed your tune from your early posts in this thread.
How so?

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@divegeester said
How so?
Maybe you should read your own posts where you accused Biden of escalating the war so Trump couldn't end it.

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@no1marauder said
Maybe you should read your own posts where you accused Biden of escalating the war so Trump couldn't end it.
How do you translate that into me saying that both sides currently want to negotiate?

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Labour MPs themselves are calling on the Reverend Starmer to be held to account and explain decision on long range missiles being allowed to be fired into Russia

https://news.sky.com/story/politics-latest-farmers-starmer-live-news-12593360?postid=8650378#liveblog-body

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The Labour MP Rachael Maskell tells Sophy Ridge the prime minister should come before parliament to make a statement on his apparent decision to let Ukraine use British missiles inside Russia.

A source told Sky News earlier today Storm Shadows had been fired into Russian territory by Ukrainian forces for the first time.

The UK government isn't commenting.

It comes days after Joe Biden gave Kyiv the all-clear to use American long-range missiles in part of Russia.
Ms Maskell says while "these are hugely challenging times", the UK parliament "has got a role in this".

Decisions like this "have got to be held to account", and MPs should "scrutinise and debate" the UK's strategy in an "unstable" world.

Ms Maskell made her view clear after being asked if she agreed with former Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn, who posted on X earlier to criticise the prime minister's apparent decision - demanding a statement.

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@spruce112358 said
Yes. Is North Korea "governing" Russia because they gave Russia aid? 😆
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@Sleepyguy said
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4
Title looks interesting; however, I don't have over an hour to watch it. Please give a quick summary?

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@divegeester said
Labour MPs themselves are calling on the Reverend Starmer to be held to account and explain decision on long range missiles being allowed to be fired into Russia

https://news.sky.com/story/politics-latest-farmers-starmer-live-news-12593360?postid=8650378#liveblog-body

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The Labour MP Rachael Maskell tells Sophy R ...[text shortened]... ed on X earlier to criticise the prime minister's apparent decision - demanding a statement.[/b]
And we should care about what Ms Maskell thinks because?

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@KingDavid403 said
And we should care about what Ms Maskell thinks because?
What? LOL.

She’s a Labour MP and Corbyn whom she’s supporting on this is also an MP and former leader of the Labour Party.

Dear me.

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