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Originally posted by Seitse
And, of course, having some opinions similar to those portrayed by López Obrador make me one of "them" for you, isn't it?

That's the typical manichean view of the world portrayed by the ruling elite of Mexico, the one that profits from maintaining the status quo. Those ones who make money out of the misery of millions.

Mexico [b]survives
thanks to ...[text shortened]... There's no past. The country is still under an iron fist ruling by the exploiters.[/b]
Sorry man, you failed the test.

So now you're admitedly against legal immigration too... what do you think about the children of immigrants (the largest source of hispanic population growth in the US)... now we're just testing degrees...

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Seitse is an interesting character. Needs a bit more education and logic though, and his entertainment value will rise to a more equal level to the average poster on these forums, though.

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I see you are resorting to half wit to fill the empty space left by your lack of own mind.

I understand you, though. The privileges coming from stolen money and/or the knowledge that you serve a bigger master shrink the character of those who are weak minded.

I suggest you keep borrowing arguments and ideas from others. It gives you a sense of safety and certainty, and that's good for your type of person.

There's nothing to be ashamed of living in a comfort zone. Carry on.

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Originally posted by eljefejesus
You may not care about the poor in Mexico, reducing poverty, and increasing economic opportunities and the living standards of Mexico, but I do, and I did the studying to discuss the science behind it intelligently... although reading and writing creative fiction stories is nice too (good job on that last one).

The "status quo" in Mexico is the 2nd PA ...[text shortened]... ies?

Is any non-AMLO-government a signal for you to see only cestpools in Mexico?
Yes, Mexico is a great place, kid. Imaginary Fantasy Land is a great place to be.

Maybe that's why you're not there, lol.

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Originally posted by Seitse
Yes, Mexico is a great place, kid. Imaginary Fantasy Land is a great place to be.

Maybe that's why you're not there, lol.
Admitedly I am in a better place: the United States of America. The economy is still the largest in the world, you know. Anything less than that would be a cestpool to you.

The figures I quoted you are not imaginary fantasy land, or do you have anything to refute or debunk these figures? Which country in Latin America do you think has a stronger economy than Mexico's? Venezuela?! (hehe, just kidding)...

The strongest economies in Latin America include Chile, Mexico, Costa Rica, and Brazil. Or to you I guess that would be cestpool, cestpool, cestpool, and cestpool.

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Originally posted by eljefejesus
Sorry man, you failed the test.

So now you're admitedly against legal immigration too... what do you think about the children of immigrants (the largest source of hispanic population growth in the US)... now we're just testing degrees...
This was a reply to another post... strange... will redo.

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Originally posted by Sleepyguy
Ah, is this the test to see if I'm a racist? Is that what you mean by "cultural undertone"? This is of course the standard, automatically cast aspersion whenever an American insists the US has a right and responsibility to control its borders and immigration policy. You waited a little longer than Seitse usually does, but you did not disappoint.

But t ...[text shortened]... he back and forth between you and Seitse BTW, very interesting to read your points of view.
Sorry man, you failed the test.

So now you're admitedly against legal immigration too... what do you think about the children of immigrants (the largest source of hispanic population growth in the US)... now we're just testing degrees...

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Originally posted by Seitse
I see you are resorting to half wit to fill the empty space left by your lack of own mind.

I understand you, though. The privileges coming from stolen money and/or the knowledge that you serve a bigger master shrink the character of those who are weak minded.

I suggest you keep borrowing arguments and ideas from others. It gives you a sense of safety a ...[text shortened]... your type of person.

There's nothing to be ashamed of living in a comfort zone. Carry on.
Freudian slip characterizing your own safety zone?
Will you ever dare question your PRD conspiracy theory and weigh strong objective evidence greater than unsubstantiated slander?

I think it is you who are privileged to serve a University and take that for granted, using it as a means to criticize the working man, the source of funds that Unviersities ultimately derive their funding from. You serve no master and have no real boss or objective to be productive. You merely facillitate the work of others and barely seem qualified to do that (although I hope if we were to discuss Latin American Literature you could demonstrate that my retorts about your education were more a challenge than a fact). juan rulfo or borges anyone?

No privilege or stolen money here, just hard honest work in the real world (not in an ivory tower).

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Originally posted by eljefejesus
Admitedly I am in a better place: the United States of America. The economy is still the largest in the world, you know. Anything less than that would be a cestpool to you.

The figures I quoted you are not imaginary fantasy land, or do you have anything to refute or debunk these figures? Which country in Latin America do you think has a stronger e Rica, and Brazil. Or to you I guess that would be cestpool, cestpool, cestpool, and cestpool.
I see you are a big fan of the U.S.

Although I am educated in the U.S. and lived there for a while, it's a scary place due to the de facto racial segregation and other stuff. I prefer high quality of life, like here in Northern Europe. To my standards, lower than this is not desirable... and that includes the U.S.

Re: Mexico, you can provide all the figures you want, but the figures don't feed the millions living in misery nor they solve the problems of the Mexicans escaping the country or using AK-47s to fight in the streets against the army for one or two kilos of cocaine. Mexico is a massive, juicy economy, but there is no fair distribution.

It's useless for the real Mexicans that Carlos Slim is one of the richest dudes in the world, and that few families control the wealth of the country with the help of the corrupt authorities.

As I said, keep posting numbers... that won't change the facts, i.e. the quality of life in Mexico sucks, the corruption is widespread, and the country is becoming a failed state.

That is the problem with economists (or the ones holding the wealth at the cost of others): "if in a country of two people one of them has all the money and the other doesn't, it's not that bad because 50% of the population is o.k. and that's a good number."

Edit 1. Let's have a laugh, what do you say? You are ITAM or Tec, are't you?

Edit 2. I recommend you stop it with the PRD or López Obrador. It makes your arguments look silly, since that's the typical accusation of the right wingers to any social democrat like me... 'you guys' immediately speak about Chávez or Cuba, as if anybody being critical of the system would necessarily be a commie. You would be surprised to know how far I am from the crippled, useless Mexican leftist groups.

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Originally posted by eljefejesus
Sorry man, you failed the test.

So now you're admitedly against legal immigration too... what do you think about the children of immigrants (the largest source of hispanic population growth in the US)... now we're just testing degrees...
I see you couldn't help yourself. It's so easy playing that race card isn't it? It must be like a drug or something, hard to kick the habit once you've started.

Tell me, if an American were to tell you that it's impossible for every person in the world to live in the US, would you call him a racist?

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Originally posted by eljefejesus
Seitse is an interesting character. Needs a bit more education and logic though, and his entertainment value will rise to a more equal level to the average poster on these forums, though.
Ouch! This has got to be one of the clunkiest, most lumpen, most cringeworthy attempted put-downs in recent RHP memory! My poor, poor knuckles!

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Originally posted by FMF
Ouch! This has got to be one of the clunkiest, most lumpen, most cringeworthy attempted put-downs in recent RHP memory! My poor, poor knuckles!
Lumpen?

LUMPEN?!

oooh that's a fightin word, or somethin.

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Originally posted by FMF
Ouch! This has got to be one of the clunkiest, most lumpen, most cringeworthy attempted put-downs in recent RHP memory! My poor, poor knuckles!
Not quite. Had I used the phrase "clunkiest, most lumpen, most cringeworthy attempted put-downs," I would then have achieved some noteworthy lumpenness and cringeworthiness in clunky splendor such as would be immortalized in "recent RHP memory..." FOREVER!

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Originally posted by Sleepyguy
Lumpen?

LUMPEN?!

oooh that's a fightin word, or somethin.
that's comic, nice! Am I so easily amused are do others get a grin from this quote too?

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Originally posted by eljefejesus
Not quite. Had I used the phrase "clunkiest, most lumpen, most cringeworthy attempted put-downs," I would then have achieved some noteworthy lumpenness and cringeworthiness in clunky splendor such as would be immortalized in "recent RHP memory..." FOREVER!
Seems to run on rather too long for a witty retort, no?

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