Judge Jackson: Can't define the term 'woman'

@sh76 said
===Why does Ron DeSantis feel like he has to butt in everywhere and tell private organizations how they should be run?===

Because the movement to make masculinity and femininity irrelevant and malleable sucks and no matter how much you wish the issue would just go away, it won't until the SJWs stop pushing this pernicious nonsense or until you Democrats stop allowing the mainstreaming of their extreme ideologies.

Umm, your arguments sound a bit... how do I put it... segregation-like. Segregation-y. Segregationist. That's it.

It's fine that you don't like it. That's cool. But you can't just legislate it out of existence. Ron DeSantis' grandstanding and signing a law that affects.... drumroll. 4 athletes. Good for him. Acknowledging the existence of gender fluidity (this is true of all bioligical species and culturally accepted throughout written humanity) isn't a liberal thing. Or at least shouldnt be.

@averagejoe1 said
Oh, im sure that under the present atmoshere of the transformation of America, spearheaded and still controlled by Obama, promulgated by y’all, that you will forgive me wearing my emotions on my sleeve.

As usual, your post lacks clarity or pertinence,
Obama isn't in politics and makes few comments
on current affairs(certainly as compared to #45.)
As for 'the transformation of America,' yeah
you're certainly correct there.....It's called progress.
Most all enlightened people welcome and embrace change.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/evolve

@earl-of-trumps said
Really...?

Democrats,, remember what you did to Kavanaugh in front of his family? Payback's a bytch, eh?

Clearly, YOU don't remember what he did to Ford.

@wildgrass said
Umm, your arguments sound a bit... how do I put it... segregation-like. Segregation-y. Segregationist. That's it.

It's fine that you don't like it. That's cool. But you can't just legislate it out of existence. Ron DeSantis' grandstanding and signing a law that affects.... drumroll. 4 athletes. Good for him. Acknowledging the existence of gender fluidity (this is true of ...[text shortened]... and culturally accepted throughout written humanity) isn't a liberal thing. Or at least shouldnt be.

Gender fluidity as a psychological phenomenon is one thing.

Requiring society to treat people with XY chromosomes as women for all legal purposes because the person says so, is insane.

@sh76 said
===Why does Ron DeSantis feel like he has to butt in everywhere and tell private organizations how they should be run?===

Because the movement to make masculinity and femininity irrelevant and malleable sucks and no matter how much you wish the issue would just go away, it won't until the SJWs stop pushing this pernicious nonsense or until you Democrats stop allowing the mainstreaming of their extreme ideologies.

Why? Executive privilege, not unlike Biden ‘telling Keystone how to run their business”. Biden did it by shutting them down. DeSantis could have shut down the swim organization, u spect.??
Y’ll Should think things through more before posting.

@sh76 said
Gender fluidity as a psychological phenomenon is one thing.

Requiring society to treat people with XY chromosomes as women for all legal purposes because the person says so, is insane.

What is gender fluidity? Was it in existence in the 60’s, when I was in high school? Is it one of those concepts where you libs tell us all to get ready for change? If so, which change? What change is this?

@jimm619 said
As usual, your post lacks clarity or pertinence,
Obama isn't in politics and makes few comments
on current affairs(certainly as compared to #45.)
As for 'the transformation of America,' yeah
you're certainly correct there.....It's called progress.
Most all enlightened people welcome and embrace change.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/evolve

Obama is not sitting on a beach. He and Susan Rice are running the Administration. I can prove this by observing the fact that they are so low key. If they were floating around all the politics, that would mean that they are accessible, visible, whatever, but not officially in. So, since they are not visible, they are IN. He never stopped his transforming of America. He wants to, in the end, be the man who changed America.

@averagejoe1 said
What is gender fluidity? Was it in existence in the 60’s, when I was in high school? Is it one of those concepts where you libs tell us all to get ready for change? If so, which change? What change is this?

Change? no. There's a reason why we study history in school.

For example, effeminized boys are a common subject in the writings of ancient Greeks.

The word "malakos" appears in Greek texts and in the New Testament of the Bible with a definition as someone "of indeterminate affinity."

That's what sh76 refers to as gender fluidity I think.

Maybe the next thing Republicans will want to do is scrub the history books of Ancient Greek philosophy, so we can pretend effeminate boys never existed.

@sh76 said
Gender fluidity as a psychological phenomenon is one thing.

Requiring society to treat people with XY chromosomes as women for all legal purposes because the person says so, is insane.

Insane for you, that's fine. No one's asking you to do it.

I'm admittedly unclear on the legal ramifications of gender reassignment. What are all the legal purposes you refer to here?

@wildgrass said
Change? no. There's a reason why we study history in school.

For example, effeminized boys are a common subject in the writings of ancient Greeks.

The word "malakos" appears in Greek texts and in the New Testament of the Bible with a definition as someone "of indeterminate affinity."

That's what sh76 refers to as gender fluidity I think.

Maybe the next thing Rep ...[text shortened]... crub the history books of Ancient Greek philosophy, so we can pretend effeminate boys never existed.

Effeminate boys are fine. Masculine girls are fine. Neither bothers me in the least.

Effeminate boys are boys

Masculine girls are girls

In society, some things are men-only. Some things are women-only and some are segregated by gender.

If a person has Y chromosomes in every non-sperm cell in his body, then he is a male, regardless of how he feels. If he suffers from gender dysphoria, then Godspeed to him in dealing with it, but he doesn't get to participate in women-only activities (if you really want an example, I'll start with a state-sanctioned women's race, such as that hosted by a state school; though I'm sure you can think of some others if you'll put your mind to it).

@wildgrass said
Change? no. There's a reason why we study history in school.

For example, effeminized boys are a common subject in the writings of ancient Greeks.

The word "malakos" appears in Greek texts and in the New Testament of the Bible with a definition as someone "of indeterminate affinity."

That's what sh76 refers to as gender fluidity I think.

Maybe the next thing Rep ...[text shortened]... crub the history books of Ancient Greek philosophy, so we can pretend effeminate boys never existed.

If we have a choice, I would rather scrub that, and today's fluidity, than teach CRT in our schools. Which would you prefer, Wildgrass?

@sh76 said
===Why does Ron DeSantis feel like he has to butt in everywhere and tell private organizations how they should be run?===

Because the movement to make masculinity and femininity irrelevant and malleable sucks and no matter how much you wish the issue would just go away, it won't until the SJWs stop pushing this pernicious nonsense or until you Democrats stop allowing the mainstreaming of their extreme ideologies.

Wildgrass response to this, above, does not exactly say he is against mixing the 2 sexes up into a homogeneous creature. Libs do have an underlying penchant for everyone being the same , homogeneous if you will, so lets just let it all hang out.
I wonder who (what) my great grandchildren will be dating years from now. God. Imagine what their parents will go through.
You libs are going to ruin our society.

@sh76 said
Effeminate boys are fine. Masculine girls are fine. Neither bothers me in the least.

Effeminate boys are boys

Masculine girls are girls

In society, some things are men-only. Some things are women-only and some are segregated by gender.

If a person has Y chromosomes in every non-sperm cell in his body, then he is a male, regardless of how he feels. If he suffers from ...[text shortened]... sted by a state school; though I'm sure you can think of some others if you'll put your mind to it).

A transgender woman isn't a "boy".

Your spewing of ignorance on this matter continues your unfortunate descent into full right wing bigotry.

The NCAA has requirements that transgender women who wish to compete "get treatment to lower their testosterone levels before they can compete in women's sports." This is a reasonable requirement to ensure that such competitions are equitable.

On the other hand, the laws you are championing are simply an extension of right wing attacks on unpopular groups.

To me a challenge to such laws would be easy to decide; I'd strike them down as lacking any rational basis.

@averagejoe1 said
Obama is not sitting on a beach. He and Susan Rice are running the Administration. I can prove this by observing the fact that they are so low key. If they were floating around all the politics, that would mean that they are accessible, visible, whatever, but not officially in. So, since they are not visible, they are IN. He never stopped his transforming of America. He wants to, in the end, be the man who changed America.

There 'ya go again'
Runnin' your neck without one
iota of evidence.........Wait, you said you had proof,
oh yeah proof, that Obama & Rice were running things......
Care to share 'this proof,' with us?.........You know, REAL EVIDENCE?

@no1marauder said
A transgender woman isn't a "boy".

Your spewing of ignorance on this matter continues your unfortunate descent into full right wing bigotry.

The NCAA has requirements that transgender women who wish to compete "get treatment to lower their testosterone levels before they can compete in women's sports." This is a reasonable requirement to ensure that such competition ...[text shortened]... challenge to such laws would be easy to decide; I'd strike them down as lacking any rational basis.

Possibly your weakest post ever. So you say that it is a given that normalcy prevails among people who have operations to make themselves who they are not, whereupon they introduce their new self to an established identified crowd and expect 100% acceptance, as one of that crowd.
Fraught with fraud and the un-natural, hardly a capacity to be mixed with thousands of years of balanced sport.
Now,There's a word for you, Marauder. Balanced. If I coach five 6-year old girls and you coach another 5, what if one of them is, shall we say, a qualified child. Not the same as the other 9 children in the game. Marauder ?