Polexit: what now?

@divegeester said
Hey Shav, we’ve got cheaper beer in the uk now because we’re don’t have follow the EU’s rules. So why don’t you pop over for a night out sometime?

Thanks Brexit.

Your luke warm pish you call beer?
3.6% alcohol?

Mhmmm… I’ll stick tae ma Chardonnay, thank you very much.

But, once the lockdown corona malarkey is over, I will take you up on your offer.

@shavixmir said
Your luke warm pish you call beer?
3.6% alcohol?

Mhmmm… I’ll stick tae ma Chardonnay, thank you very much.

But, once the lockdown corona malarkey is over, I will take you up on your offer.

Most standard draught here is 3.8% up to 4.8%. In some free houses they serve the real stuff up to 6%. Personally I prefer a lower alcohol volume as I think you taste the beer more.

Beer and beer drinking is the way we stave of disaster, the way we keep the back channels open.

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@shavixmir said
Well, even though you’re a miserable old tory git… you obviously have redeeming features.

Or wait! Did your wife just post this to get back at you for not doing the dishes or something?

I’m actually left of centre Shav. I’m just a hard-core UK independence promoter.

I’m also a supporter of European cooperation including many of the thing the EU oversees. I’m just absolutely NOT a supporter of there being a European Parliament.

@divegeester said
I’ve never claimed that I am a Thatcherite, you’re making it up. As usual.

What I HAVE stated in this forum, several times, is that I DO NOT support the sell off public utilities, in fact I believe they should all be renationalised. Including the railways.

Yeah I’m pretty sure you did identify yourself as a supporter of Thatcher wether you can remember it or not, and the way you talk about unions and the working class kind of verifies my memory if it was needed.

@kevcvs57 said
Yeah I’m pretty sure you did identify yourself as a supporter of Thatcher wether you can remember it or not, and the way you talk about unions and the working class kind of verifies my memory if it was needed.

I was a supporter of Thatcher breaking the power of the unions and I credit her with lifting the Uk out of hole it was in. The country was a hell hole under Labour and Heath. 3 day week, power cuts, strikes. Horrendous.

If you get a little buzz calling me a Thatcherite because Brexit isn’t as bad as you would like it to be and you don’t like me rubbing your nose in it, then so be it.

@kevcvs57 said
Yeah I’m pretty sure you did identify yourself as a supporter of Thatcher wether you can remember it or not, and the way you talk about unions and the working class kind of verifies my memory if it was needed.

How do I “talk about the working class”?

@divegeester said
I was a supporter of Thatcher breaking the power of the unions and I credit her with lifting the Uk out of hole it was in. The country was a hell hole under Labour and Heath. 3 day week, power cuts, strikes. Horrendous.

If you get a little buzz calling me a Thatcherite because Brexit isn’t as bad as you would like it to be and you don’t like me rubbing your nose in it, then so be it.

Yeah I’m sure the three day week was over by the time she slithered into number 10 and irony of ironies it was joining the common market that that deserves most of the credit for lifting our economy out of its post imperial 1960s zombie like state.
All thatcher did was deregulate the markets, privatise the main utilities and transport systems whilst taking away the means for the working class to defend their living standards in the face of these seismic changes.
Oh and how we love them privatised utilities and transport systems, nice one Maggie.

@kevcvs57 said
Yeah I’m sure the three day week was over by the time she slithered into number 10 and irony of ironies it was joining the common market that that deserves most of the credit for lifting our economy out of its post imperial 1960s zombie like state.
All thatcher did was deregulate the markets, privatise the main utilities and transport systems whilst taking away the means fo ...[text shortened]... smic changes.
Oh and how we love them privatised utilities and transport systems, nice one Maggie.

Lol, how’s life through your pinhole?

@kevcvs57 said
No Phil your living in cloud cuckoo land mate there are children, lots of them in the UK going hungry as I post this and the good old British Tory party is about to rip £80 per month from their parents shopping list.
I’m glad you do not have worry about the financial aspects of Brexit but some unfortunates have to worry about it a lot. A scarcity of food in a market economy ...[text shortened]... of all food through the roof = actual hunger for actual children there is nothing relative about it.

You're probably right about cloud cuckoo; mine's a place where people sat around in dodgy cafes all day smoking roll - ups and talking about life, women, and the latest Floyd album, and even decent, working class degenerates like me could afford a round of ales without considering the cost. People who cared too much about money were called 'bread - heads', oh and there was a Labour Party worth voting for. Ah, the days of my youth....

P.S. We just travelled from Bali to home (Sulawesi); had to have a PCR test (both nostrils and down the throat) before we could even look at an airplane, and then....When we arrived in Manado we had to have an antigen test before we could leave the airport. (One nostril only, my choice) More things have been shoved up and down me over the last couple of days than might be considered decent. Still, most Indonesian doctors seem to be women, and most of them seem to be young and beautiful, which takes the edge off.

PPS. Sorry, what were we talking about...Empty supermarket shelves and the price of baked beans; it would help if people stopped panic - buying, and stopped voting for the Tories, but it seems that's what people do these days, not like in the good old days....

@indonesia-phil said
You're probably right about cloud cuckoo; mine's a place where people sat around in dodgy cafes all day smoking roll - ups and talking about life, women, and the latest Floyd album, and even decent, working class degenerates like me could afford a round of ales without considering the cost. People who cared too much about money were called 'bread - heads', oh and there ...[text shortened]... ing for the Tories, but it seems that's what people do these days, not like in the good old days....

There is no “scarcity of food” here in the uk, as Kev put it.
furthermore those needing food bank support did not need it because of Brexit, it’s laughable ‘sky falling down’ rhetoric. There is no fuel shortage here in the uk, did you see that one being banded about at the start of this thread? Gone already!

We are getting a lot of rain at the moment, I’m sure that’s down to Brexit!

Did you know that there is a lorry driver shortage right across Europe? That’s caused by Brexit too.

Oxygen is running out, children are being born sterile, space aliens are invading, covid is out of control, there’s war in the Middle East, starvation if rife and there’s a volcano in the Canary Islands.

Damn you Brexit.

@indonesia-phil said
You're probably right about cloud cuckoo; mine's a place where people sat around in dodgy cafes all day smoking roll - ups and talking about life, women, and the latest Floyd album, and even decent, working class degenerates like me could afford a round of ales without considering the cost. People who cared too much about money were called 'bread - heads', oh and there ...[text shortened]... ing for the Tories, but it seems that's what people do these days, not like in the good old days....

Again we are not talking the vicars wife not being able to get enough super soft loo roll we are talking about people whose income is so low all the time that at points on their month they cannot afford a tin of beans even if the shelves are creaking with the weight of them.
What would a Labour Party worth voting for look like to you Phil?
Would it court Rupert Murdoch and kill lots of Iraqi children for no reason other than its leader wanted a cuddly photo op with a Republican President?
I have a post op family member who will likely be getting chemo and or radio therapy in the near future so I shove things up my nose and to the back of my throat 2 or 3 times a week, like anything the more you do it the easier it is.

@divegeester said
There is no “scarcity of food” here in the uk, as Kev put it.
furthermore those needing food bank support did not need it because of Brexit, it’s laughable ‘sky falling down’ rhetoric. There is no fuel shortage here in the uk, did you see that one being banded about at the start of this thread? Gone already!

We are getting a lot of rain at the moment, I’m sure that’ ...[text shortened]... he Middle East, starvation if rife and there’s a volcano in the Canary Islands.

Damn you Brexit.

No ones blaming Brexit for food banks that is squarely on the shoulders of anyone who voted for Tory austerity for last eleven years.
But if you really cannot grasp the relationship between prices and the supply / demand equation which really has been negatively affected directly by Brexit then a grown up debate is probably beyond you, but hey at least we got our fisheries back, or have we 🤔

@kevcvs57 said
No ones blaming Brexit for food banks that is squarely on the shoulders of anyone who voted for Tory austerity for last eleven years.
But if you really cannot grasp the relationship between prices and the supply / demand equation which really has been negatively affected directly by Brexit then a grown up debate is probably beyond you, but hey at least we got our fisheries back, or have we 🤔

Sigh.

I tell you what, instead of you hoping from one topic to another, conflating one issue with another, why don’t you make a definitive list of what you think IS directly and wholly attributable to Brexit and I’ll dismantle it.

@divegeester said
There is no “scarcity of food” here in the uk, as Kev put it.
furthermore those needing food bank support did not need it because of Brexit, it’s laughable ‘sky falling down’ rhetoric. There is no fuel shortage here in the uk, did you see that one being banded about at the start of this thread? Gone already!

We are getting a lot of rain at the moment, I’m sure that’ ...[text shortened]... he Middle East, starvation if rife and there’s a volcano in the Canary Islands.

Damn you Brexit.

Did 'Brexit' do all that?? Blimey, it's worse than I thought.....

@kevcvs57 said
Again we are not talking the vicars wife not being able to get enough super soft loo roll we are talking about people whose income is so low all the time that at points on their month they cannot afford a tin of beans even if the shelves are creaking with the weight of them.
What would a Labour Party worth voting for look like to you Phil?
Would it court Rupert Murdoch and ...[text shortened]... and to the back of my throat 2 or 3 times a week, like anything the more you do it the easier it is.

I know what we're talking about, and I think what I mean by a 'proper' Labour party is one which speaks for the working classes, but socialism seems to be a dirty word in Britain at the moment. What happened in Iraq was disgusting, I was in England when that was going on, and we could watch all the missiles being fired live on the news from the comfort of our armchairs. I had a friend working in Number 10 at the time when Bush and Blair were hatching that particular act of genocide, and Blair was apparently a moderating force....
Britain is a place now where even ex Labour Prime Ministers are admired for becoming multi - millionaires, none of it makes much sense to me anymore, but the point is that the rot goes far deeper than anything 'Brexit' may have caused.
And I'm sure we're all very sorry to hear about your family member, forgive my flippancy, it's just the way I write.