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@kevcvs57 said
When you quote RT you are directly quoting the Putin regime, are you going to pretend not to know this?
At the present moment, the news in RT is more objective than the news in the Western mainstream media. Therefore, I prefer RT to CNN, for example. If your news is worse than the news of "Putin's regime", then a question arises about whether only your regime is perhaps even worse right now.

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@teinosuke said
Actually, the EU is basically a secularised Roman Catholic project ( an attempt to reconstruct something along the lines of the fairly benign Habsburg "liberal autocracy" ). It's generally been the Catholic countries that have favoured "ever closer union"... along with religiously mixed Germany, which does so in part for obvious historical reasons - though it's also notable ...[text shortened]... eft. This doesn't really surprise me. After all, Henry VIII's reformation was the first Brexit vote!
Thank you. Very good answer.

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@eintaluj said
At the present moment, the news in RT is more objective than the news in the Western mainstream media. Therefore, I prefer RT to CNN, for example. If your news is worse than the news of "Putin's regime", then a question arises about whether only your regime is perhaps even worse right now.
But your a lying Russian troll so it really doesn’t matter what you think does it. Nothing you post here is untainted from your bad actor status.
RT is openly and officially a state run media outlet of the Putin regime.

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@eintaluj said
What? You seem not to understand that it follows you must treat with respect also those nations who have different views on sexuality. It also follows you have no right to suppress those minorities who have such a culture that some minorities inside that population are suppressed. Besides, I have NOT presented the argument you ascribe to me in your comment. You are slandering again, in the present case, not only POland but also me.
No no I never have to treat fascist homophobes with any respect whatsoever regardless of their nationality any more than I have to respect British homophobes.

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@kevcvs57 said
But your a lying Russian troll so it really doesn’t matter what you think does it. Nothing you post here is untainted from your bad actor status.
RT is openly and officially a state run media outlet of the Putin regime.
It is bad for you if your non-state-run cartel media consists mainly of fake news and propaganda - so much that Russian state-run news RT is more objective and interesting. There should be something deeply wrong with your brains if you prefer worse quality of the goods because of political reasons.

To be sure, I do not trust RT concerning some specific issues. For example, concerning the Ukraine conflict, one should be careful concerning Russian RT. Unfortunately, concerning the Ukraine conflict, one should be very careful also concerning Western mainstream media.

Concerning the US happenings, RT does not need to spread false information at all. It is useful for Russia to just spread true but uncomfortable facts. And there are many.

Now, turning back to the initial question. You can check from some other sources, whether there was a conflict between the EU Commission and the EU Parliament concerning sanctioning Poland.

If you refuse to understand so simple things, then probably it is you, not me, who is very seriously brainwashed. Besides, I really do not share such articles from Russian news that I regard as propagandistic. I am good at the Russian language and I have sufficient experience to understand what is probably fact and what is probably Kremlin interpretation and what is probably fake news.

You should also check your brains. Fresh it. Once a year, take a look at what the Chinese newspapers are really writing. Then you can see that they are often saying something else than the Western news claims them to say.

Be careful and do not trust your Western corrupt media corporations.

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@eintaluj said
It is bad for you if your non-state-run cartel media consists mainly of fake news and propaganda - so much that Russian state-run news RT is more objective and interesting. There should be something deeply wrong with your brains if you prefer worse quality of the goods because of political reasons.

To be sure, I do not trust RT concerning some specific issues. For exampl ...[text shortened]... rn news claims them to say.

Be careful and do not trust your Western corrupt media corporations.
Unlike yourself I do not trust any media of any description, I rely on my evaluation of human nature and common sense.
I watch quite a bit of RT and my common sense tells me they are lying because of their constant pro putin stance for the same reason I am wary of all partisan outlets but the idea of fake news and alternative truths, is the only fake news. Truths and facts are readily available to your critical faculties but the fact that you relinquish yours to a source as partisan as RT tells me they have probably withered on the vine in your case.

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@kevcvs57 said
Unlike yourself I do not trust any media of any description, I rely on my evaluation of human nature and common sense.
I watch quite a bit of RT and my common sense tells me they are lying because of their constant pro putin stance for the same reason I am wary of all partisan outlets but the idea of fake news and alternative truths, is the only fake news. Truths and facts ...[text shortened]... h yours to a source as partisan as RT tells me they have probably withered on the vine in your case.
You should not trust Russian state media concerning such issues as the Ukrainian conflict, Russian inner affairs, etc. Concerning Russian inner affairs, there are some good sources but they are not Russian state media and most of them are in Russian. Note that some of them are covertly financed by the US. You should not trust the US cartel media concerning such issues as the Afghanistan war, the Iraq war or the US inner affairs. Rather, you can obtain some information otherwise suppressed in mainstream media, from some alternative media or even from Russian state media like RT or Ruptly. Whatever source you are using, you have to check the information. RT is sometimes publishing true and confirmed information that is important but missing from Western mainstream media. Sometimes, there is a clear source of the information, like when the court has made a decision and the court documents are available on the court's website - but nevertheless, the Western mainstream media does not mention it. Sometimes, the Democrats are hiding something and Trump's supporters are telling the truth, sometimes vice versa.

However, your comments are entirely irrelevant to the issue of Polexit, and also to my mentioning the possible conflict between the EU Commission and EU Parliament. Your comments have been absolutely helpless in finding out whether the news about it in RT was fake news. Your reasoning is circular and you are harassing other disputants, based on your dogmatic ideology.

I do not talk with such persons like you.

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@kevcvs57 said
Ha er ok
“Ha er”… what?

“Ha er, yes your absolutely right divegeester but I’m to arrogant to admit it”

Would be your appropriate response.

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@divegeester said
“Ha er”… what?

“Ha er, yes your absolutely right divegeester but I’m to arrogant to admit it”

Would be your appropriate response.
Nope. Poland’s not leaving…
They should be booted out, but they ain’t leavin’.

Even, cynically, if you base their choices as: be “Part of the EU” or be “Part of Putin’s monkey spanking fantasy”, there’s just no way in hell they’re gonna even risk the latter.

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@shavixmir said
Nope. Poland’s not leaving…
They should be booted out, but they ain’t leavin’.

Even, cynically, if you base their choices as: be “Part of the EU” or be “Part of Putin’s monkey spanking fantasy”, there’s just no way in hell they’re gonna even risk the latter.
My comment (which you are referring to) was aimed at Kev regarding the reason why it’s so difficult to recruit lorry drivers. Check back a page.

As for Poland, you’re probably right for the time being, but a lot of Poles aren’t happy with the EU. Give it time.

Greece would have been out years ago if the EU didn’t have them by the fiscal balls. The poorer countries will always struggle to get out, look how difficult it was for the UK. Germany and France have the other nations by the nads.

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@divegeester said
“Ha er”… what?

“Ha er, yes your absolutely right divegeester but I’m to arrogant to admit it”

Would be your appropriate response.
Go ahead, tell him what else he thinks. Chances are, you'll get that wrong, too.

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@eintaluj said
You should not trust Russian state media concerning such issues as the Ukrainian conflict, Russian inner affairs, etc. Concerning Russian inner affairs, there are some good sources but they are not Russian state media and most of them are in Russian. Note that some of them are covertly financed by the US. You should not trust the US cartel media concerning such issues as the ...[text shortened]... ing other disputants, based on your dogmatic ideology.

I do not talk with such persons like you.
We are not talking I am simply rebutting your lies and disinformation. If you cannot handle a rebuttal perhaps you shouldn’t post here.and if you are then do not act as a mouthpiece for an outlet as diabolical as RT.

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@suzianne said
Go ahead, tell him what else he thinks. Chances are, you'll get that wrong, too.
Do you have anything to add to the topic of Polexit?

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@divegeester said
“Ha er”… what?

“Ha er, yes your absolutely right divegeester but I’m to arrogant to admit it”

Would be your appropriate response.
No sorry I should have made it clearer.
Ha er your a lying Tory twot just like the corrupt bunch of public schoolboys you constantly bend over for.
There sorted.

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kevcvs57 is slandering me above.
And kevcvs57 has not "rebutted" my "false information" as he/she claims. Instead of that, he/she has attacked me based on the source of the news I mentioned - Russia Today. It is in no way a rebuttal of the news. In fact, kevcvs57 has refused to discuss whether the information shared was correct, despite I asked it.
I have in no way asserted that this information is correct, rather I was curious, whether someone can confirm or refute it.

I suggest that Red Hot Pawn should expel such maniacs from its Forum.

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