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08 May 07
08 May 07
It's ashame actually and I don't fully understand it. What you see is a direct result of continuous day in and day out broadcasting of negative things about everything in this country. Almost no mention of unemployment rates, or achievements in Iraq. The bush bashing went on for over 6 years. Ask the average democrat about bush and many will say they "Hate" bush? Ask them why. The most common response I get is "Bush Lied" They don't know what about or they'll mention the weapons of mass destruction. Don't question that Bush lied but ask them why they don't hate everyone else in their life that lied to them including democrats and family members. No matter what they respond the reason is that they don't know. They're following the crowd and the popular chant of the Liberal media and democrat party. This scary behavior is exactly what happened in Nazi Germany. Brainwashed citizens.
08 May 07
Originally posted by hamltnblueThat pretty much describes Critical Theory .. Marxist style
It's ashame actually and I don't fully understand it. What you see is a direct result of continuous day in and day out broadcasting of negative things about everything in this country. Almost no mention of unemployment rates, or achievements in Iraq. The bush bashing went on for over 6 years. Ask the average democrat about bush and many will say they " ...[text shortened]... This scary behavior is exactly what happened in Nazi Germany. Brainwashed citizens.
08 May 07
It does for sure and should at some time in the future will be studied somewhere in the same context of WWII. The reason that you cant convince them otherwise is that it has been pounded in their minds every day for years by the people that they trusted on TV and in the papers. The fact is that various Media outlets abused the blind trust people had in them and betrayed it for an agenda. Common mis truths now roll off their tongues like they're common knowledge and factual.
08 May 07
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Originally posted by hamltnblueI think you are as close to the truth as can be had. At the outset of the thread, I listed "Rogue and basically insane "news anchors" invested in anarchy? " as a possible cause for this derangement.
It does for sure and should at some time in the future will be studied somewhere in the same context of WWII. The reason that you cant convince them otherwise is that it has been pounded in their minds every day for years by the people that they trusted on TV and in the papers. The fact is that various Media outlets abused the blind trust people had in ...[text shortened]... genda. Common mis truths now roll off their tongues like they're common knowledge and factual.
I would offer all of NBC as proof. Chris Matthews is the most obvious example because he lacks the intellect to hide the obvious: that he has been purchased. You can go to MediaMatters every day and get a transcript of his program. He follows their lead, with never a question asked. But then, why should he not? He is probably on their board of directors. If anyone is interested, there is a neat little link chart following all the money from Soros through his fronts to MediaMatters then to Matthews directly from there. I'll leave it as an exercise to the reader though. The minute I say that Bill O'Reilly has spent a lot of money following this money trail, we will be into another irrational "hate Fox" thread.
Actually, that would fit right in with the theme of this thread too.
Then all we would have to do is drag Wal-Mart in to complete the lunacy.
08 May 07
Originally posted by StarValleyWyYears ago, on a lark, some friends and I circulated a petition at a local folk festival to increase the speed of light. We cited the obvious advantages: faster communication, seeing deeper into the recesses of space, avoidance of roadway hazards, etc. I'm not saying that the majority of people signed it, but we left with a few hundred signatures.
That made my day and fits right in with the theme of this thread. Thank you for that.
I think. It still scares the hell out of me that we have become a nation of zombies. I kind of expect it out of euros, having naught but the BBC and other state controled media. But in the USA? This is alarming.
08 May 07
Originally posted by jammerhttp://www.nea.org/edstats/images/status.pdf
Might have something to do with our education system here in the States. Probably 80-90% of the teaching profession are Progressive Liberals locked into PC thinking.
Burned-out hippys left over from the 60's, took over all the teaching jobs.
That .. and Critical Theory as a way of life.
In 2001, 56% of public school teachers described their political views as either conservative or tending towards conservative. 34% described their views as leaning towards liberal, and only 10% described themselves as liberal. Even in large urban areas, only 49% of teachers classified themselves as liberal. You don't really find critical theory or postmodern nonsense until you start taking English classes in college. The overwhelming majority of academics in philosophy and other humanistic disciplines don't endorse the sort of normative relativism that characterizes postmodern "research".
09 May 07
Originally posted by bbarrIf that is the case then why is the Teachers union money overwhelmingly going to the democrats? If it was true wouldn't the support be going to Conservatives? Me thinks the data is flawed.
http://www.nea.org/edstats/images/status.pdf
In 2001, 56% of public school teachers described their political views as either conservative or tending towards conservative. 34% described their views as leaning towards liberal, and only 10% described themselves as liberal. Even in large urban areas, only 49% of teachers classified themselves as liberal. Y ...[text shortened]... nes don't endorse the sort of normative relativism that characterizes postmodern "research".
09 May 07
Originally posted by bbarrThis poll is asking how people view themselves. Its been my experience that the best way to get a bad read on someone is to ask them about themselves.
http://www.nea.org/edstats/images/status.pdf
In 2001, 56% of public school teachers described their political views as either conservative or tending towards conservative. 34% described their views as leaning towards liberal, and only 10% described themselves as liberal. Even in large urban areas, only 49% of teachers classified themselves as liberal. Y ...[text shortened]... nes don't endorse the sort of normative relativism that characterizes postmodern "research".
Most people deny to themselve who they really are. People see themselves as mainstream, even if they're not.
09 May 07
Originally posted by MerkAnother problem is that individuals differ depending on the issue. Many people are "liberal" on social issues and "conservative" on economic issues (and vice versa).
This poll is asking how people view themselves. Its been my experience that the best way to get a bad read on someone is to ask them about themselves.
Most people deny to themselve who they really are. People see themselves as mainstream, even if they're not.
09 May 07
Originally posted by richjohnsonI understood what you were getting at. The same thing applies. If you vote for the democrat party because of a single issue you get all of the policies that they follow. An excellent example is the last election. A large percentage of Republicans protested and didn't vote on election day because of a couple of issues to send a message. Well it worked and as a result we have Nancy Peloci and Harry Reid bastardizing the US congress. Those same people can complain all they want but they got what they asked for. They protested the couple of issues most important to them and got all of the policies that they would have never voted for. Now they watch as the dems spin the results into a referendum on the war. So in some ways a large amount of Republicans have their hands on the White flag slowly raising.
I'm not talking about welfare etc. (which are clearly both social and economic issues) when I say "social issues"; I mean issues like marriage, controlled substances, abortion, etc.