They Have Come Unhinged

Originally posted by wittywonka
-Increased pre-boarding, onboard, and baggage security.
-Increased communication between the CIA and FBI regarding terrorists suspected of being in the U.S.
-Cooperation with foreign countries that suspected and reported threats and investigations into those cases.

I'm simply listing ideas that first pop into my head, but I could continue if you woul e been reduced, more than the president obviously took the time to consider and/or initiate.

How would you explain the baggage idea to the american public... do you think taking the box knife away from the terrorists would have stopped their plan... people still get illegal items on planes now.


did you know that the FBI and CIA were not communicating properly before the attacks?

As you said we had more than enough info that the towers were to be attacked... to increase cooperation with foreign countries would change nothing.

Originally posted by StarValleyWy
Malicious Neglect.

Wouldn't it be more honest of you to just say that you Hate Bush?

Hatred is ok you know. You don't have to go around finding all these silly fabricated reasons to hate. Just let er fly! It's much more honest and will cause less insanity in the end.

Where did we ever get the notion that we have to have good reasons for our ...[text shortened]... ational world and not nearly as indicative of 1936 Germany as the unhinged dems are today.

Irony.

Irony that you question everyone's arguments, and when you are confronted with legitimate facts, you dismiss them as fabrications and hold out on denial. I have presented facts. Have you even attempted to present facts?

Irony that you blame me (and others) for hating Bush but you yourself have demonstrated a hatred of everyone who stands against your opinion.

Irony that you blame others (and me) for having a lack of reasons for our hatred, and you yourself claim that none are necessary.

I'm done with this debate with you.

Originally posted by lepomis
How would you explain the baggage idea to the american public... do you think taking the box knife away from the terrorists would have stopped their plan... people still get illegal items on planes now.


did you know that the FBI and CIA were not communicating properly before the attacks?

As you said we had more than enough info that the towers were to be attacked... to increase cooperation with foreign countries would change nothing.

If you want to criticize my suggestions, fine. Sure, baggage inspections wouldn't be the best method. Again, I was thinking off the top of my head. However, increased check-on screenings and onboard security, which were initiated after 9-11, could have lessened the chances of a successful attack.

If you can think of any better methods, let me know. You will simply be proving my point by suggesting that more could have been done. Personally, I thought any president of the United States, one of the most powerful countries in the world, would have been competent enough and had such an abundant number of resources to stop such an attack, especially with prior knowledge. I don't know what the best way could have been, but I know there were (and are) plenty of effective ones.

But apparently I was wrong.

Originally posted by wittywonka
If you want to criticize my suggestions, fine. Sure, baggage inspections wouldn't be the best method. Again, I was thinking off the top of my head. However, increased check-on screenings and onboard security, which were initiated after 9-11, could have lessened the chances of a successful attack.

If you can think of any better methods, let me ...[text shortened]... been, but I know there were (and are) plenty of effective ones.

But apparently I was wrong.

I am sorry for criticizing your ideas... I can see from your last 2 posts that you are fired up about this... thats ok... maybe we can talk about it another time.

Originally posted by StarValleyWy
LOL

This is frustrating. Can you give us information of WHY you think of him this way? Specific examples of his speaches or anything?

What I rather suspect is that you will find that you are indulging in a bit of "group think" inspired by the overpowering need to "fit in". This is not a bad thing, and I'm not attacking you. I am just frustrated th re 911?" That would be helpful in helping understand your "Dissatisfaction" with him.

Specific examples of Bush's inadequacy? Every time he appears on TV and opens his mouth.

I am not a 'group thinker'. On the contrary I tend to suspect any 'view' which immediately attracts mass support.

The allegation that Bush 'knew' about the 9/11 attacks beforehand is, to my mind, just plain bloody nonsense.

Originally posted by StarValleyWy
Did anyone besides me notice that there was a Rasmussen Poll that came out yesterday that was almost buried by the "main street" media?

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/22_believe_bush_knew_about_9_11_attacks_in_advance

35% of democrats think that Bush is a mass murderer, and another 26% "don't know" for sure. One can argue ...[text shortened]... eeps like Soros? Dems are by their very nature "weak minded", and this doesn't help.

I blame the education industry: Dems control the schools, the teachers and their unions; at the university level, they overwhelmingly control the professors and the administrators. An offshoot of this control has been that the curricula in your average college has become so watered down that mastery of it is the equivalent of what a high school graduate might have been expected to know 50 years ago. Even worse is the fact that many of the "professors" are evil, mendacious people who are intent on indoctrination or deconstructing any good values that the student might enter college with. In my opinion, unless the student is pursuing a highly technical field such as engineering or medicine, going to college makes you a moron.

Regarding the national media, I think that many of the journalists who work at the newspapers definitely have an agenda and it veers far from the values most people in mainstream America hold. Even worse, you have a bunch of internationalists who control TV broadcasting and Hollywood, and they look down their nose at such quant notions as religion, the Constitution and nationalism. As a consequence, I gave up television and watching local news broadcasts. Also, I'm very selective about what films I pay money to see, and try to avoid any that promote nihilism, communism, socialism, radical feminism or advances the aims of the gay agenda. Any actor or director who that thinks he's a political pundit gets added to my list of films I will not see. Same goes for the music industry. If everyone thought and acted this way, Hollywood and the music biz would see that although this type of product might play well to the gay bathhouse crowd, it doesn't carry water for good, decent, hard working people.

Originally posted by StarValleyWy
Did anyone besides me notice that there was a Rasmussen Poll that came out yesterday that was almost buried by the "main street" media?

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/22_believe_bush_knew_about_9_11_attacks_in_advance

35% of democrats think that Bush is a mass murderer, and another 26% "don't know" for sure. One can argue eeps like Soros? Dems are by their very nature "weak minded", and this doesn't help.

The reasons for my extreme dislike of the bushwhacker are these, among others: I don't think he knew about 911 in advance but there may have been some lower ranks who did if those reports have any validity. No, my dislike stems from the Moore movie, which repubs reviled and I know you can spin video takes but what Bush said and did sickened me. For instance at a fund raiser dinner at some oil producer headquarters, don't remember the exact venue, but he said and I quote: 'There are the haves and there are the have mores. You are my base'. Try to put some republican spin on that to show me he wasn't blatantly bought out by big oil, and you talk about NBC dudes being bought out.
Another one, his reaction to the 9-11 attack. surely you saw that on the boob toob. He is in class reading Dr Suess or somebody and an aide comes up, whispers in his ear, er, we have just been attacked and one of the towers is smoking and another is inbound. What do we do.' I would imagine something like that whispered in GB's ear. So his response? Well MY response would have been to get the hell up, say there is an emergency, see you later, and start gathering military and the rest of the crew. But NO, what does he do? Sits there staring into space for a few minutes with a stupid look on his face, like what the flock do I do NOW kind of thing. This goes way beyond political spin or dem v repubs. It goes to the heart of what a truly incompent boob he is. That is why I dislike this power freak. Those are SOME of the reasons.

Originally posted by wittywonka
Irony.

Irony that you question everyone's arguments, and when you are confronted with legitimate facts, you dismiss them as fabrications and hold out on denial. I have presented facts. Have you even attempted to present facts?

Irony that you blame me (and others) for hating Bush but you yourself have demonstrated a hatred of everyone who st ...[text shortened]... hatred, and you yourself claim that none are necessary.

I'm done with this debate with you.

LOL

What is Bush Derangement Syndrome? Is it dangerous?

WillyWonker seems to have it bad.

Bush Derangement Syndrome is not new. It is a mutated form of GDS and JDS.

When GDS arose, it left most of Armenia dead at the hands of the Turks. GDS is "Gypsy Derangement Syndrome". It is marked by hatred, one religion against another and irrational belief in simple minded solutions.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenian_Genocide

JDS is "Jew Derangement Syndrome" and was used by the German people to unhinge their minds in preparation for war. JDS is also marked by hatred, one religion against another.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holocaust

BDS is the latest example of using propaganda to incite the populace to irrationality, using hatred. The theory is that if you repeat a lie enough, then weak minded masses of goofy cartoon like people can be made intentionally insane. Alas, this is a well known and successful means of inciting war and in justifying murder and genocide.

BDS or "Bush Derangement Syndrome" was first noticed when Bush won the election in 2000, beating out the dem in a gorry mess of an election. Bush didn't get as many votes as said dem. But he won.However, because the commies had gained control of the US education system some decades ago, the voting public never had a clue that popular vote means nothing in a republic where the ONLY way of electing a president is based on the vote of each state! It never occured to them that if they want POPULAR vote to determine the presidency, they need to simply change the constitution. It's called Law vs. Lawlessness.

If you ever wonder if it matters that the education system has failed, just look at the poor souls who now have Bush Derangement Syndrome.

The haters who now have BDS are probably beyond help.

They are truly unhinged and all you have to do is study the German people circa 1936 who were infected with Jew Derangement Syndrome to see how they can be expected to act in the coming years.

Originally posted by StarValleyWy
LOL

What is Bush Derangement Syndrome? Is it dangerous?

WillyWonker seems to have it bad.

Bush Derangement Syndrome is not new. It is a mutated form of GDS and JDS.

When GDS arose, it left most of Armenia dead at the hands of the Turks. GDS is "Gypsy Derangement Syndrome". It is marked by hatred, one religion against another and irrational ...[text shortened]... with Jew Derangement Syndrome to see how they can be expected to act in the coming years.

Don't forget the Cheney, Rumsfled and Rice variants of BDS.

Originally posted by Merk
Don't forget the Cheney, Rumsfled and Rice variants of BDS.

Actually, the way it works is that you have to have a SINGLE point of hatred. Then you lump all into that group. When fully infected, the persons so infected, lose the ability to see individuals at all. They are all lumped into a group called "The Enemy". This makes it easier when you start to slaughter them. The "enemy" are "sub-human" and aren't really human, so how can it be evil to gas them and enslave them?

Originally posted by Merk
Don't forget the Cheney, Rumsfled and Rice variants of BDS.

Actually, it's been my experience that it started as Cheney. I started seeing CDS well before the Florida morons screwed everything up. (How is that they can manage 10 bingo cards, but not one lonely ballot?)

True story. My first experience with CDS was a couple of days after Bush announced that he would be his V.P. This leftist F-tard actually said, "Dick Cheney started the Vietnam War!" His face was all red and he was launching spittle from his stupid mouth as he said it.

His behavior was exactly the same as you see from individuals at lefty protests. Screaming, blathering, irrational morons.

Originally posted by Merk
Actually, it's been my experience that it started as Cheney. I started seeing CDS well before the Florida morons screwed everything up. (How is that they can manage 10 bingo cards, but not one lonely ballot?)

True story. My first experience with CDS was a couple of days after Bush announced that he would be his V.P. This leftist F-tard actually said, "Dick ...[text shortened]... same as you see from individuals at lefty protests. Screaming, blathering, irrational morons.

You have to realize that it was not a coincidental action by an individual. Your spittle spewing guy was probably taught that in college.

I tell you... we have to understand that propaganda is effective against weak minded pseudo-dems. They are so lacking in ability, that they can easily be led to fanaticism. The Penn and Teller video portrays the "joiner" syndrome better than any ten thousand word essay I could write. Those with BDS are joiners by nature.

Originally posted by StarValleyWy
LOL

What is Bush Derangement Syndrome? Is it dangerous?

WillyWonker seems to have it bad.

Bush Derangement Syndrome is not new. It is a mutated form of GDS and JDS.

When GDS arose, it left most of Armenia dead at the hands of the Turks. GDS is "Gypsy Derangement Syndrome". It is marked by hatred, one religion against another and irrational ...[text shortened]... ith Jew Derangement Syndrome to see how they can be expected to act in the coming years.

"WillyWonker." Thanks, I appreciate that. It really exemplifies your maturity.

Why do you continue to fail to reply to my posts? Instead, ironically (again), you divert the conversation to your own brand of twisted propaganda! Instead of addressing the pertinent information to your own initial question, you twist the conversation and now begin comparing us to Nazis! For the sake of everyone, limit your argument to relevant information (supported by facts would be nice for a change).

Originally posted by wittywonka
"WillyWonker." Thanks, I appreciate that. It really exemplifies your maturity.

Why do you continue to fail to reply to my posts? Instead, ironically (again), you divert the conversation to your own brand of twisted propaganda! Instead of addressing the pertinent information [b]to your own initial question, you twist the conversation and now beg ...[text shortened]... your argument to relevant information (supported by facts would be nice for a change).[/b]

He chose not to respond to my post either. I gave my personal view as to why I hate bush but I guess it wasn't worth a response, beneath his dignity. Showed referances too.